How Much for a Carbon Roof?
How Much for a Carbon Roof?
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ShaunTheSheep

Original Poster:

951 posts

184 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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[Idiot mode on]

How much would a carbon roof cost? How is it fitted? Just chop a panel out of the roof then glue it on or a bit more advanced than that?

What about a carbon bonnet & wings? These would need to be moulded as OEM really, can't imagine a giant plasticine mold but not sure how else you'd make the mold to cast the carbon fibre in?

Any enlightenment gratefully received!


RRS_Staffs

648 posts

208 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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Who?

But more importantly

Why?

Shaw Tarse

31,888 posts

232 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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On what car??

Mattygooner

5,304 posts

233 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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Carbon is weaved, you need to hire a "weaver", she will come round and basically weave your car a sort of "carbon jumper", well more like carbon “cycling shorts”.

Then you can just use Velcro to attach it.

Tonsko

6,299 posts

244 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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Doesn't the roof in coupes and non-soft-tops add to the rigidity of the chassis?

Faust66

2,410 posts

194 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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Mattygooner said:
Carbon is weaved, you need to hire a "weaver", she will come round and basically weave your car a sort of "carbon jumper", well more like carbon “cycling shorts”.

Then you can just use Velcro to attach it.
I was thinking about a carbon roof for my car, but as it’s a classic I thought that corrugated iron would have more of a period look.

I wonder if you could offer me any tips on fitting such a roof?


angusc43

13,614 posts

237 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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Faust66 said:
Mattygooner said:
Carbon is weaved, you need to hire a "weaver", she will come round and basically weave your car a sort of "carbon jumper", well more like carbon “cycling shorts”.

Then you can just use Velcro to attach it.
I was thinking about a carbon roof for my car, but as it’s a classic I thought that corrugated iron would have more of a period look.

I wonder if you could offer me any tips on fitting such a roof?
Try shingles - especially if you are into the retro-Austrian look. Much quieter that corrugated iron if it rains. You do need to stain it once a year though, which puts some people off.

YoungOne

194 posts

188 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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You buy it by the roll and just stick it on, pay me lots and I will come and do this for you wink

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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YoungOne said:
You buy it by the roll and just stick it on
hehe lightweight looks, but actually weighs slightly more than standard.

AndyHSPL

70 posts

186 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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Is it the shreddies granny's that come round to knit it for you??

Seriously though, a friend of mine put one of these on his evo 8. When you factor in the cost of shipping the car back to mitsubishi in Japan as they were the only people who could correctly fit it while maintaining structural rigidity it was rather expensive.

Just needed a nana's touch though biggrin

Rouleur

7,416 posts

218 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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Jigsaw the existing roof off and stretch the carbon across the hole, then No More Nails it along the edges. For that speshul touch go with this green weave, it's got kevlar in so it's bullet proof and everything!


Classic Grad 98

26,500 posts

189 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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You don't knit carbon fibre. Fibre cloth for wet lay-up is supplied ready weaved on a roll. Manufacturing a carbon fibre part requires a very accurate and very flawless mould which you could not acheive DIY. However, if you could make the part, it could be fitted and would do a decent job of being a stressed chassis member. I see cars having their roof panels removed all the time- once the metal panel is removed the new roof could be bonded on using Terostat or similar.
A cheaper option would be carbon fibre effect vinyl sheeting which would be ridiculous!

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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ShaunTheSheep][Idiot mode on said:
How much would a carbon roof cost? How is it fitted? Just chop a panel out of the roof then glue it on or a bit more advanced than that?

What about a carbon bonnet & wings? These would need to be moulded as OEM really, can't imagine a giant plasticine mold but not sure how else you'd make the mold to cast the carbon fibre in?

Any enlightenment gratefully received!
you best bet is either aluminum or GRP. Carbon fibre is over rated for non racing usage, and is more about aesthetics then actual weight saving benefits.

Non structural parts would be the most beneficial, bonnets, boot, wings etc.



Parsnip

3,264 posts

217 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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Just glue the carbon fiber on top - that way you get the stiffness of you current roof, but it is a few kg lighter due to the carbon fiber.

hoppo4.2

1,548 posts

215 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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ok if your really considering it i may be able to help first off what car is it?

if the parts are avalible for your car i would recomend that you would need a cage to keep the car ridged.

if not then you would need a mould made about 1500-3000 depends on how complex the shape is.

thb by the time you have done it and had the cage etc prob about 6k all in. it gets very pricy for a one off.

if the car is a peugeot then u might be in luck as there are some wings bonnets ans roof pannels avalible in carbon.

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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AndyHSPL said:
Seriously though, a friend of mine put one of these on his evo 8. When you factor in the cost of shipping the car back to mitsubishi in Japan as they were the only people who could correctly fit it while maintaining structural rigidity it was rather expensive.
REALLY? There is nobody in the UK, home of most of the F1 teams, who knows how to fit a carbon fibre panel?

I'd be tempted to check his story with a magnet.

tercelgold

969 posts

186 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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ShaunTheSheep][Idiot mode on said:
How much would a carbon roof cost? How is it fitted? Just chop a panel out of the roof then glue it on or a bit more advanced than that?

What about a carbon bonnet & wings? These would need to be moulded as OEM really, can't imagine a giant plasticine mold but not sure how else you'd make the mold to cast the carbon fibre in?

Any enlightenment gratefully received!
Is there some reason you need carbon fiber in the roof and/or the bonnet and wings ?

Drinking a can of coke would be 330 grams in weight gain, a liter of water being 1 KG

Edited by tercelgold on Wednesday 29th June 19:04

paulw123

4,906 posts

219 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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EDLT said:
AndyHSPL said:
Seriously though, a friend of mine put one of these on his evo 8. When you factor in the cost of shipping the car back to mitsubishi in Japan as they were the only people who could correctly fit it while maintaining structural rigidity it was rather expensive.
REALLY? There is nobody in the UK, home of most of the F1 teams, who knows how to fit a carbon fibre panel?

I'd be tempted to check his story with a magnet.
He was conned then!

007 VXR

64,187 posts

216 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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OP .. Look here smile

http://www.carbonweezel.co.uk/race_roofs.html

they are making stuff for my car biggrin

vx220

2,725 posts

263 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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http://passionford.com/forum/restorations-rebuilds...

hidden in this post is the answer!

not got time atm to trawl through, sorry