RE: Is The Nurburgring 24hrs The New 'Le Mans'?
RE: Is The Nurburgring 24hrs The New 'Le Mans'?
Thursday 30th June 2011

Is The Nurburgring 24hrs The New 'Le Mans'?

PH/Castrol EDGE reporter Tony Hetherington on why the 'Ring 24hrs is a must see


The eventual 2nd place BMW factory team - sponsored by Castrol EDGE (Just like Tony H!)
The eventual 2nd place BMW factory team - sponsored by Castrol EDGE (Just like Tony H!)
When Castrol EDGE invited PH to send two reporters to the Nurburgring 24hrs, we picked Tony Hetherington for his great idea to 'recce' the event as a Le Mans alternative.

He went, he saw, he filed this story:

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"Having been lucky enough to be picked for PH's recent "NURBURGRING 24HRS TRIP WITH CASTROL EDGE", I wanted to use the opportunity to report back on something I thought would be valuable to you, my fellow PHers.

My brother, friends and I have attended the Le Mans 24hr race for some years now - going to the same site and the same trackside locations each time. As predictable as our camp site location, is the PH Le Mans forum's sound of frantic keyboard tapping on the Monday with users proclaiming "it's not what it used to be" and "chavs have ruined Le Mans". With this in mind I chose to look upon this trip as the chance to decide if the Nurburgring 24hr race is a worthy alternative to our - to your - yearly pilgrimage to La Sarthe.


We stayed at the M-Festival camp site (just next to Hatzenbach, for those of you that know it) - great views across the back of the pits and a short walk from all the main activities. One of the things that first struck me about the event was its sheer size: the track is 25km long and as a result I found it ends up in little pockets of communities. The centre of activity is the development along the main pit straight which houses the 'ring rollercoaster (though yet to run) along with shops, catering and huge space available for displays and games. Notably, this year, a 24hr Gran Turismo 5 race running along side the real race. Everything in and around the centre, as well as Nordschleife laps when possible, is paid for using the ring-o-card. A credit card which you top up with funds and merely wave over a pad to make your purchase. Prices for food and drink were reasonable - €2.80 for a small beer, and €5 would get you "Schweine-Schnitzel im brotchen".


As I said, the size of the track is so large that it was very difficult to truly appreciate the scale, however the opportunity arose to be a passenger in an M3 around the track at the M-Corso on Friday afternoon - an event which saw over 150 BMW M-Cars drive round in convoy.

A wonderful experience, but what amazed me most was the fan's ingenuity. Many erect full scaffold viewing towers to over safety-fence height, from scratch, with stairs and full cover from the extremes of weather we would see over the weekend (there was hail Thursday night and 30c on Sunday afternoon!). The dedication to their race viewing was second to none.


Over the weekend we got the impression that the race is very important to the German fans. Of course, the cars in the race are predominantly German, but even so it was more than that. Everyone was friendly and enthusiastic, but not with over-exuberance or stupidity that you may often find at modern Le Mans. As we walked through the streets in and around the circuit there were many lovely cars - everything from E30 M3 through to brand new high power autobahn slayers - and driving noisily, but appropriately. One particular camp site summed up the key difference for me; a chap had a generator plugged in to his caravan merrily running with no thought for tying it down or locking it up. Doesn't sound like much, but that really showed the mood of the area for me.

All this talk of roller coasters and camp sites, but what of the racing? Well, by now you will all know the result (and if you don't; the Porsche GT3 RSR works car won, beating the factory BMW M3 GT into second place by just 4mins 23 seconds). The field of cars was huge; over 200, so the walk along the grid (which anyone can do, no special pass needed) at the start of the race took 20mins end to end! The result was that the faster cars would constantly be lapping the slower classes - using their flashing headlights to warn the cars ahead almost the entire lap, every lap.


As a non-German speaker (well, I can ask for a beer!) I did find it difficult to keep on top of the racing. I felt there were not enough screens situated around the track (for example, there were none on the start finish straight) and, unfortunately, the Radio Le Mans team who normally do such a fantastic job in France were transmitting only online, not on FM around the track. Huge data bills on your phone would have been the only way to overcome that. There were not frequent place summaries on the screens we could see and so this minor gripe is one of the few I have. The attendance is dominated by the home countrymen, which explains this entirely.

I mentioned earlier the small pockets you seem to get around the circuit? Well, there is a shuttle bus which circulates the whole track but we were warned it is way too busy, and the result is many hours' queuing once you find yourself 12 miles away from your tent. So it's to ay by the main section with plenty of great viewing opportunities at different types of corner - even though we remained fairly static we never felt left wanting. My suggestion would certainly be to drive yourself there (we flew, so were car-less), perhaps even with a mountain bike or two on the back. It will make viewing different parts of the circuit far easier and give you the opportunity to stock up at the local supermarket.


To the question I hope you're now wondering; "Is the Nurburgring 24 an alternative to the Le Mans 24"? Yes. Very much so. It's a different proposition, certainly, but there seems to be a far nicer atmosphere. By it's very nature it has different cars - there's no LMP (Le Mans prototype) cars, but the sounds emitted by the Mercedes SLS and Lexus LFA more than make up for it. Ask yourself why you go to Le Mans; if it's for great racing and a festival atmosphere then you'll not be disappointed.

The people, the track, the country and the racers made it an absolutely fantastic weekend, and I would certainly suggest that fellow Le Mans visitors - or even those new to endurance racing events - give a go."
Tony Hetherington







 

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Antj

Original Poster:

1,147 posts

229 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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in a word


NO!


robmlufc

5,229 posts

215 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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How small is a small beer? How much for a pint/half litre?

Quentin1

468 posts

273 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Brilliant.

Thanks for describing Germany and the race as you did.

I go there for 12 years.

rampageturke

2,625 posts

191 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Those pics at the bottom would make great wallpapers, but who do your pictures have to be so god damn low res?

nsa

1,704 posts

257 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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I think the N24 has great potential, especially given the variety of road cars there. I run Nurburgring.org.uk and although I neglected it this year, I will make an effort to publicise the 2012 race in the UK. I didn't realise that there would be no English TV coverage available. I saw a bit online, but it wasn't the same as watching Le Mans on Eurosport.

Great write-up by the way.


Matt UK

18,084 posts

229 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Tony, great write up thumbup

This looks great. Maybe on PH we could arrange a road trip for the next one?

BSC

341 posts

311 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Superb report! Thanks a lot! Nice piccies as well.

Tony, could you smell the 'bratwurst' on all the grilles along the track? I read somewhere that even the drivers in their helmets get hungry in the early evening when passing Karussel and Brunnchen. True?

mark3man

245 posts

240 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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This sounds like the place Le Mans used to be (and how, to some extent, Classic Le Mans is).
Freedom of access, loads of space to camp and view, not too expensive. I'm sure they will have bike (pedal variety) hire next year - lots of people going to Le Mans take them. If only Le Mans and the Ring would collaborate to not clash ?
Another point - there is a lot of theft from cars and tents (even while people sleep in them) at Le mans and it is beginning to irritate a lot of spectators. Hopefully, that will not become feature at the Ring.

Kecky

95 posts

207 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Antj said:
in a word


NO!
Correct


The N24 is much better cool

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

279 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Thanks all - glad you enjoyed the write up thumbup

I posted that shot of the pit garage, not for it's artistic ability, but simply to show how utterly cramped the garages are. Up to 5 cars per garage meant that, especially during qualifying and practice, it was crazy and teams literally pushing other teams out the way for space smile

rampageturke said:
Those pics at the bottom would make great wallpapers, but who do your pictures have to be so god damn low res?
They were taken with my Canon SLR and reduced only for the web - happy to post the hi-res versions for you. Which one(s) would you like?

BSC said:
Tony, could you smell the 'bratwurst' on all the grilles along the track? I read somewhere that even the drivers in their helmets get hungry in the early evening when passing Karussel and Brunnchen. True?
rofl - yes, we really could!! We were driving round just after lunchtime and so all along the track you could see, and certainly smell, the bratwurst

I should also say, as a general observation, that we spent the weekend with Castrol EDGE engineers. Top blokes, but aside from that I learnt an awful lot about oil and it surprised me. Not least what goes into oil, the testing etc, but also that you should really look upon oil as a performance part. Have a look at their site for far better explanations than I could ever give. This isn't a cheap plug but a genuine interest from a guy who's a bit of a geek about things like that biggrin

Autolegend

2 posts

183 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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The LM24 and N24 fill in different voids for sports car racing. Le Mans draws the fastest prototypes and since GT1's don't race the Spa 24 now, the GTPro class for GT2s is also the fastest for GT endurance racing.

The niche of the N24 is huge grids.

RDMcG

20,851 posts

236 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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I love the N24...very informal, very good fun. I watched last year from the pits....it was exceptional....a pic or two:






BSC

341 posts

311 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Tony said in the article 'Of course, the cars in the race are predominantly German'. True, but have you noticed all the British drivers on the grid? Many are well-known. Go thru the list and pick yourself the names you know ... So there must be something that attracts, even more than Britcar 24h.

kennyken1988

31 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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I watched it at home thanks to audi tv, sport auto and radio le mans. My favorite race of the year, no nonsense start to finish and there is always something interesting going on.

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

282 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Not been to the N24, but have to say that the race at Le Mans this year was one of the best I can remember with all 4 categories being close right up until the end.

Forget F1 if you want to watch proper racing go to any endurance race, be it the N24, LM24 or Britcar at Silverstone, Funcup 24 at Spa etc. afterall it's not about the racing its all about the experience.

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Definitely on my schedule for 2012. Hopefully it'll coincide with the Olympics too!

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

279 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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BSC said:
Tony said in the article 'Of course, the cars in the race are predominantly German'. True, but have you noticed all the British drivers on the grid? Many are well-known. Go thru the list and pick yourself the names you know ... So there must be something that attracts, even more than Britcar 24h.
Indeed - there were a few British cars too (as well as driver's). The Aston teams, for example.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

279 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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vetteheadracer said:
Not been to the N24, but have to say that the race at Le Mans this year was one of the best I can remember with all 4 categories being close right up until the end.

Forget F1 if you want to watch proper racing go to any endurance race, be it the N24, LM24 or Britcar at Silverstone, Funcup 24 at Spa etc. afterall it's not about the racing its all about the experience.
This year especially LeMans was brilliant yes The 'ring 24 hours was won by "only" 4mins 23 I think it was. Considering it's an 8 - 9 minute lap, that's still pretty good going, and there was some close racing - not quite the LM 13 seconds tho smile

Downton Mini

1,026 posts

193 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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I wanted to watch this but couldn't find it anywhere are there plans for the next one to be shown on TV for the UK audiance?

BSC

341 posts

311 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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TonyHetherington said:
This year especially LeMans was brilliant yes The 'ring 24 hours was won by "only" 4mins 23 I think it was. Considering it's an 8 - 9 minute lap, that's still pretty good going, and there was some close racing - not quite the LM 13 seconds tho smile
The BMW #1 had an accident in Karussel and Pedro Lamy needed to drive a very short way against the direction of the race in order to remove the vehicle out of the track. This manoeuvre was punished with a 3 minutes stop-and-go penalty. So all in all without this accident the BMW could have won or at least it would have been an extremely close race. But that's racing ...