good cheap lightweight track car (not kit car)
good cheap lightweight track car (not kit car)
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torqueofthedevil

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2,088 posts

206 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Im thinking of changing my 306 gti. I have had some fun doing track days but i think something lighter would be more fun. It handles well and the engine pulls really well. It may just be that did a track day on the hottest day of the year, but my tyres were shredded to pieces in 3 laps, the brakes (admittedly standard pads) took a hammering and it just felt a bit heavy.

I was pretty jelous of all the lotus's that were out there. Caterhams and kit cars are great and opitomise a great lightweight track car but 1. budget wont stretch to a good enough model / engine and 2. i want to be able to drive to and from trackdays.

Budget maybe 2k any suggestions?

VeeFour

3,339 posts

191 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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MX5...

v8will

3,310 posts

225 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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VTS Saxo?

SteveS Cup

1,996 posts

189 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Well the obvious answer would be a 106 / saxo.

But the other obvious suggestion would be an MX5.

FWD is always going to be tough on front tyres. I guess RWD is evened out a bit more.




EDIT: FPMSL! I'm too slow!!!!

busta

4,504 posts

262 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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As above, try a 106/Saxo/Ax. My 106 is pretty good on tyres and brakes on track days, and I've found the chassis a bit more forgiving than the 306 when dealing with lift off oversteer. Also good on fuel - I averaged 30mpg on my last track day- 100 miles on the road and 70 miles flat out on the track.

Egg Chaser

4,954 posts

196 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Starlet Glanza V? 130bhp and around 800kg should make it pretty quick around a track. Probably lots of tuning parts available too.


VeeFour

3,339 posts

191 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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FWD + abrasive track surface + heat will kill tyres very quicky.

RWD is definitely more fun on the track - can't see much point in swapping a 306 for something else FWD, as they're a pretty light car, so you're not going to see many improvements in consumable wear by going smaller.

Jayho

2,413 posts

199 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Egg Chaser said:
Starlet Glanza V? 130bhp and around 800kg should make it pretty quick around a track. Probably lots of tuning parts available too.
He wants to be able to turn corners aswell. wink

busta

4,504 posts

262 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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VeeFour said:
FWD + abrasive track surface + heat will kill tyres very quicky.

RWD is definitely more fun on the track - can't see much point in swapping a 306 for something else FWD, as they're a pretty light car, so you're not going to see many improvements in consumable wear by going smaller.
306's are deceptively heavy, 1200kg+ from memory. That's nearly 25% more than a 106 and about 110 times the weight of a citroen AX....

VeeFour

3,339 posts

191 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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busta said:
306's are deceptively heavy, 1200kg+ from memory. That's nearly 25% more than a 106 and about 110 times the weight of a citroen AX....
I've had horrendous tyre wear in a 70bhp, 650kg firebreathing monster...

But the RWD cars I've run, despite being a lot heavier, have been very gentle on their tyres.

jmb88

212 posts

183 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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run what I've got - stripped out Porsche 924 with bucket seats + harnesses. Very good on tyres, only 125bhp so you don't have to fight it all the time, but you can still get it sideways if you want. (unless running it on Toyo 888s, in which case it always goes exactly where you want it). Probably weighs ~900kg so reasonably light. the balance is great too, front engine + rear gearbox.

torqueofthedevil

Original Poster:

2,088 posts

206 months

Friday 1st July 2011
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How much could I pick up something quick with a duratec
Engine?

ewan221

1,219 posts

215 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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MR2 turbo ?

ROOODBOY

4,593 posts

224 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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About half an hour ago I got back home from a 45 minute long hoon in the o/h's Mk3 MR2 Roadster, and I'm still grinning like an idiot!

It's an absolute blast to drive. driving

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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ewan221 said:
MR2 turbo ?
Bang for buck, this. .

Something like this: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2958249.htm

Don't be scared by age... I had a 20 year old non-turbo and it put a smile on my face every day. Bulletproof. Every drive was an event. It's only when i get in my friend's Boxster that I realise how well it handled. The turbo's are very quick. Very.

ETA or this: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2990224.htm

The styling might not be to some tastes but it'll go like st off a shovel and looks in lovely nick.

Edited by Opulent on Saturday 2nd July 02:20