company car and tire changing
company car and tire changing
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Trustmeimadoctor

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14,364 posts

184 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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at what point would you think its acceptable to go ask for a new set of tires ? the wifes are down to about 2mm on the front but lower on the out side edge yet the garage says they wont do them as lease company GE would refuse to do them


Trustmeimadoctor

Original Poster:

14,364 posts

184 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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anyone ?

Stupeo

1,343 posts

222 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
anyone ?
Surely they are safe down to 1.6mm - why change them before hand?

Fish981

1,441 posts

214 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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I assume the lease company will go for the cheapest option and wait 'til they're at 1.6mm.

kambites

71,467 posts

250 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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Stupeo said:
Surely they are safe down to 1.6mm - why change them before hand?
There's nothing magic about 1.6mm of tread. The more tread you have, the more standing water the tyre can displace before it aquaplanes. A tyre with 0mm of tread is perfectly safe in the dry...

Go and do some burnouts to get them down to 1.6mm. silly

Trustmeimadoctor

Original Poster:

14,364 posts

184 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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lol its only a 1.6 giullietta burnouts arnt its style tbh its too weak

the bloke in the garage just told her come back in 3k hardly scientific tbh im always more inclined to change my tires befor they hit 1.6 mm after having a nasty moment once in my 172 with standing water a roundabout and a artic

Stupeo

1,343 posts

222 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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kambites said:
There's nothing magic about 1.6mm of tread. The more tread you have, the more standing water the tyre can displace before it aquaplanes. A tyre with 0mm of tread is perfectly safe in the dry...

Go and do some burnouts to get them down to 1.6mm. silly
True - but 1.6mm is the legal limit across 75% of the centre of the tyre so why would the lease company want to change it now?

Obviously, my own car is changed well before 1.6mm as I like the peace of mind etc - but I can understand why my employer want's me to get down to 1.6mm before changing.

sunbeam alpine

7,249 posts

217 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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Are you sure they're only at 2mm? I have to take my wife's company car to get it's tyres changed, and I've never had a tyre place refuse to change - after all for them it's a sale, although maybe at a lower (fleet) margin.

Surely leasing companies don't ask them to retain tyres for checking?

jkh112

23,933 posts

187 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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The lease company with my old company car would allow tyres changed when they were 2mm or less, and the tyre fitters had to keep the old tyres to show the lease company. Why not just call the lease company and ask their tyre policy?

softtop

3,172 posts

276 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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can you still get a tyre mended where the screw has entered the tyre near to the side wall?

Nick3point2

3,920 posts

209 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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The rule for GE is that if the central 3/4 of the tread is down to 2mm it can be changed. Shoulder wear is irrelevant providing the tyre is still legal (ie no structure exposed).

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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softtop said:
can you still get a tyre mended where the screw has entered the tyre near to the side wall?
tut tut....


Most co drivers I know over a number o differing companys have the policy that the tyres are changed at 3mm.
(thats partly why I change them on my own personal car at that min depth as the stopping distance in the wet increases notably beyond that - is just not worth risking egging out a few more miles over safety, especially if you have your wife and kids in the vehicle).

grumpyscot

1,293 posts

221 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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Our company dealt with Lex, who, being owned by the Halifax, took a typical Yorkshire attitude - you don't get replacements until they're almost illegal, and even then only under duress. The tyre fitters had to get approval before fitting and had to quote the tread depth. Easiest way was to simply bang a few kerbs and get them to say the tyres weren't safe because of sidewall cuts!

They also often wouldn't let you MOT the car until the very last minute, and wouldn't give you a loan car if any faults were found. Twice my tax disc arrived three weeks after expiry. Awful company.

jsg612

571 posts

197 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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I just take mine in and ask for new tyres just before they're down to the markers. It's the law, if they need replacing, they should be replaced.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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jsg612 said:
I just take mine in and ask for new tyres just before they're down to the markers. It's the law, if they need replacing, they should be replaced.
I'm shocked that they don't change at 3mm as a duty of care to their employees. I mean what happens if you always change your tyres at 3mm then they demand you push through until they are just legal... Joke.

chris1roll

2,041 posts

273 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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grumpyscot said:
Our company dealt with Lex, who, being owned by the Halifax, took a typical Yorkshire attitude - you don't get replacements until they're almost illegal, and even then only under duress. The tyre fitters had to get approval before fitting and had to quote the tread depth. Easiest way was to simply bang a few kerbs and get them to say the tyres weren't safe because of sidewall cuts!

They also often wouldn't let you MOT the car until the very last minute, and wouldn't give you a loan car if any faults were found. Twice my tax disc arrived three weeks after expiry. Awful company.
We are with Lex Autolease, formerly Lloyds TSB Autolease and they will replace at 2mm and only fit "premium" branded tyres. Got the OE continentals on the Skoda the last 2 times, Michelins before that.
TBH, I've found them very good.
They wouldn't authorise the cambelt at the last service though...Their funeral!

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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chris1roll said:
We are with Lex Autolease, formerly Lloyds TSB Autolease and they will replace at 2mm and only fit "premium" branded tyres. Got the OE continentals on the Skoda the last 2 times, Michelins before that.
TBH, I've found them very good.
They wouldn't authorise the cambelt at the last service though...Their funeral!
How does that work?
Cambelt is due to be changed due to age or milage - which they knew about upon accepting your circumstances.
That car will take a hit come auction time.

Frankly I'd just take it to main dealer does this need doing? Answer yes if it fails on say the motorway it could lock both the driving wheels spin the car and cause and accident maybe flip the car. I cannot see them accepting H&S flaws like this

poing

8,743 posts

229 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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It's TYRES for fks sake! We are not in America so please spell it correctly!

Sorry for the mini rant, it's a pet hate of mine.

Nick3point2

3,920 posts

209 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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Welshbeef said:
if it fails on say the motorway it could lock both the driving wheels spin the car and cause and accident maybe flip the car.
really? I wouldn't have thought there is enough traction from tyres to provide a reaction great enough for a normal car to pivot about it's front axle. Otherwise you'd be able to flip the car by braking too hard...

This argument is based on a modern medium sized car.

mattcov

721 posts

255 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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When I had a Co Car, which was with Lex/LTSB Autolease, they did the tyres when I asked no questions. Rears only changed as they had worn on the inside and it was droning, but they still changed no problem.

I'd suggest your Fleet Manager has a word and suggest they do as they're told assuming they're less/at 2mm. Companies can also get stung hard now if employees have accidents and things like duff tyres are picked up wink