Front Fog lights - MOT failure?
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Both the fog lights on my MR2 don't work - I assume it's the bulbs as only one worked when I bought it now the other one doesn't either. It's due for it's MOT soon and I don't have the time to change them as I'm working every hour god sends right now! I'm not being lazy here the screws are rusted in and will require drilling out and then replacing which I simply don't have time for! However if it's an MOT failure I'll have to make time I guess but as some cars don't have them am I right to assume they aren't a part of the MOT?
GC8 said:
Aaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !
Ok then, 2 years ago my shogun failed its mot because one of my spot lights had a cracked lens, was told that if I disconnect them it would then pass.Friend over on the isle of mull had a non working front fog light, they failed on this.
Now that's two different garages and that's what my previous post was based on.
If It's not the case then someone should tell the mot testers LOL.
1. If the MOT manual says it has to be present and working it has to be present and working. Lights, wipers, brakes, 4 tyres, whatever.
2. If it's NOT required by the manual it's NOT required and does NOT have to work. But if there's anything which looks potentially dangerous it can trigger an advisory or a fail at the tester's discretion. Broken lights, buckled bodywork, broken window glass, dodgy spare tyre etc etc.
2. If it's NOT required by the manual it's NOT required and does NOT have to work. But if there's anything which looks potentially dangerous it can trigger an advisory or a fail at the tester's discretion. Broken lights, buckled bodywork, broken window glass, dodgy spare tyre etc etc.
Ozzie Osmond said:
1. If the MOT manual says it has to be present and working it has to be present and working. Lights, wipers, brakes, 4 tyres, whatever.
2. If it's NOT required by the manual it's NOT required and does NOT have to work. But if there's anything which looks potentially dangerous it can trigger an advisory or a fail at the tester's discretion. Broken lights, buckled bodywork, broken window glass, dodgy spare tyre etc etc.
Care to explain? It's very simple. Unless it's one of the options on the screen my descretion doesn't come into it. Broken Window glass isn't a fail. Bald spare tyre isn't a fail. Buckled bodywork isn't a fail unless it falls under "sharp edges" (and that's basically if walking/driving past the vehicle is dangerous. Not if you have to get down on hands and knees and poke the sharp bit.) if a front fog is broken it's not a fail. It's not for the tester to say "well the spare is bald I better fail it" There's no way I CAN fail it on that even if I was dodgy.2. If it's NOT required by the manual it's NOT required and does NOT have to work. But if there's anything which looks potentially dangerous it can trigger an advisory or a fail at the tester's discretion. Broken lights, buckled bodywork, broken window glass, dodgy spare tyre etc etc.
Edited by Rich_W on Wednesday 6th July 20:27
The inspection for sharp edges is in section 6.1 of the manual which applies to the bodywork. Lights, glass and mirrors aren't body work and they are checked under different sections of the manual where there are no resasons for rejection citing sharp edges. You can even have bumper irons sticking out of the front of the car that could cause injury and still not get a fail as long as they haven't got any sharp edges caused by damage or corrosion.
The most that any broken glass on a non obligatory light should get would be an advisory.
The most that any broken glass on a non obligatory light should get would be an advisory.
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