Would a TTRS engine fit into a MK2 golf?
Would a TTRS engine fit into a MK2 golf?
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Somnophore

Original Poster:

1,364 posts

197 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Just wondered if this is a possible conversion, it's 335bhp as standard which could offer more reliable performance than a massively tuned 20VT engine.

Not having worked on a MK2 not sure if it would fit practically or would be a sensible option however people fit VR6 engines in and the TT engine is only a 2.5.

EDLT

15,421 posts

227 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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It might, there are a few cars with transverse I5s and they are no wider than a MK2 Golf. The bigger issue will be getting it to run.

kambites

70,350 posts

242 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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The VR6 is a more tried and tested solution, and can be quite cheaply supercharged for that kind of level of power. I would expect an I5 to be longer than the VR6, but it might well fit anyway. The problem would be getting all the electronic stuff hooked up and possibly finding a gearbox (unless you want the end result to be 4WD).

Somnophore

Original Poster:

1,364 posts

197 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Agh ok, it's just I've managed to aquire the engine, gearbox and wiring from a guy I know who's son wrote off his TTRS driving tpft, he's swapped it me for my mums old car which I had no need for, my first thought was just to sell for a quick profit but wondered what I could do with it conversion wise if I decide to keep it.

GreatGranny

9,519 posts

247 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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May be an issue with length as its a 5 cyclinder engine but chuck enough money at it and I'm sure its possible.

And as above once its in it getting it to run with all the electronics etc..

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

229 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Somnophore said:
Just wondered if this is a possible conversion, it's 335bhp as standard which could offer more reliable performance than a massively tuned 20VT engine.

Not having worked on a MK2 not sure if it would fit practically or would be a sensible option however people fit VR6 engines in and the TT engine is only a 2.5.
and 400bhp with minor mods.

Make it so.

J4CKO

45,469 posts

221 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Would want a syncro drivetrain to make best use of it as these are old, light cars and I suspect 200 bhp is about sensible, perhaps a bit more so you dont have 400 bhp and waste 200 of it and smoke and broken driveshafts, an LSD and super sticky tyres would help but with 2wd I suspect it may be an exercise in frsutration getting the power down, with 4wd, even then it would be "lively" but immensely quick.

Would recommend a full cage and some bars to the struts and other reinforcement, if you have ever jacked an aging mk2 up and opened the door you will understand why biggrin avoid the 4 door as its even worse in the torsional rigidity stakes, add in a bit of rust and it has all the integrity of a wet hanky !

Awesome project though !

anonymous-user

75 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Somnophore said:
Agh ok, it's just I've managed to aquire the engine, gearbox and wiring from a guy I know who's son wrote off his TTRS driving tpft, he's swapped it me for my mums old car which I had no need for, my first thought was just to sell for a quick profit but wondered what I could do with it conversion wise if I decide to keep it.
How did he manage to insure a TT RS TPFT?? Surely must require fully comp? Be a good project if it fits smile

Hoygo

725 posts

182 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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It could....take the measurements and other things but hmmmm....
and if it could fit i would love to see a 500 bhp (or even more,extreme tunning to the 5-pot turbo) in a mk2 golf,but than 4wd system in the golf is needed,would cost a st load of money but if it becomes real the golf would be a fvcking best,would love it.

Somnophore

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1,364 posts

197 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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His son (26) borrowed it driving on TP extension of his own comp insurance, his Dad obviously has it FC for
Him.

BoostMonkey

579 posts

206 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Somnophore said:
His son (26) borrowed it driving on TP extension of his own comp insurance, his Dad obviously has it FC for
Him.
My god, you would be soo pissed if that happened to you. £30k car down the drain frown

aka_kerrly

12,493 posts

231 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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It CAN and HAS been done already!!!!

Engine doesn't even look that big in the bay



http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5189344-...

Edited by aka_kerrly on Wednesday 6th July 13:02

VR6 Turbo

2,682 posts

175 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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I Assure you that 350bhp in a MK2 golf with fwd is enough. 1st and 2nd gears are redundant already.

make it 4wd. unless you hate tyres and love torque steer

taylor172

833 posts

225 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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they made an A1 with the TTRS engine in ... om nom nom

FamilyDub

3,587 posts

186 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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aka_kerrly said:
That is f00kin' bonkers!! Made for a good read!!

Crazy Dutch Dude said:
I want to change a few little things, but I'm happy so far. I have now 450ps (!) with 600NM
^^ 450!! redface

Edited by FamilyDub on Thursday 7th July 10:47

aka_kerrly

12,493 posts

231 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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FamilyDub said:
aka_kerrly said:
That is f00kin' bonkers!! Made for a good read!!

I want to change a few little things, but I'm happy so far. I have now 450ps with 600NM

Crazy Dutch Dude said:
I want to change a few little things, but I'm happy so far. I have now 450ps (!) with 600NM
^^ 450!! redface

Edited by FamilyDub on Wednesday 6th July 14:07
Yep clearly my kind of guy, i bet loads of people said it couldn't be done, was a waste of time/money/effort but this guy thought fk that i'm doing it and look at the results.

I recall years ago people saying Vr6 engines were a bad conversion then people started building them properly and realised they are pretty dam good. Soon after R32 engines were available and people said they couldn't go into Mk2s and then start spouting the usual bks about it being too big an engine too heavy an underpowered yet as soon as people started building them loads have popped up an now people are removing R32 engines to put R36 engines in!

Yet people around here seem to think VWs are just about looking like they have broken suspension rolleyes

FamilyDub

3,587 posts

186 months

Thursday 7th July 2011
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If I ever won EuroMillions, I'm sure a forced-induced, mid-engined, MK1 Golf GTI w/R36 motor would be high on my agenda to waste money on build.

I've subscribed to his thread. hehe

ging316

5 posts

183 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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this is wat my long term plan for my mk2 is its getin an abf lump for now until i can get everything piled 2gether mite take me a few years but the sound of a 400+bhp rs lump lighting all four wheels of my old golf is just two damn tempting lol

frosted

3,549 posts

198 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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My friends friend has a mk2 with a ttrs in it , it moves a bit . He said was quite straight forward

Meridius

1,608 posts

173 months

Tuesday 30th August 2011
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The white DutchBuild car is a 2.5 5 Cylinder non turbo from the US market Mk5 Golf/Jetta. Using that one because of something to with FSI and this engine taking very well to turbocharging.

Another one here into a Rallye, seems to be going well.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4697504-...

Im sure most people have seen this one, Audi S2 5 Cyl.
http://www.wolfsburgrennsport.com/2009/08/mk2-s2-d...

Also plenty of other ways to get big power in a Mk2, like this 1000hp+ R36 Turbo
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4108171-...