RE: Police Hoodwink Chinese Public With Honda-Merc
RE: Police Hoodwink Chinese Public With Honda-Merc
Monday 11th July 2011

Police Hoodwink Chinese Public With Honda-Merc

Is it a Honda? Is it a Mercedes? No...it's a Hondacedes (all right - it's a Merc with Honda badges)



Conspicuous consumption may not be a dirty word in neo-capitalist China anymore, but there are limits. And recently the denizens of the People's Republic have been getting a bit miffed at the profligate spending of local government.

So, in an attempt to avoid the ire of the local citizenry, the police in the city of Fengchenggang in Guangxi Province sprinkled their Mercedes ML350 (worth 900,000 yuan or £87k) with Honda badging so as to make it look like a humble Honda CR-V (worth 200,000 yuan, or around £19k).

Inevitably, the ruse did not work, and China Car Times reports that the car - and police department - have been roundly (and rightly) abused on the net by car-savvy members of the public.

Bizarrely, it seems that the Fengchenggang police flatly denied that they'd made any changes to the car (though we admit that this is not quite the same thing as continuing to call it a Honda CR-V...).

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Insight

Original Poster:

608 posts

227 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Good on them, the Police are obviously trying to make the cars more reliable too!

chrisispringles

893 posts

194 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Had me fooled...


laugh

highmaintenance

46 posts

210 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Preposterous

jbi

12,700 posts

233 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Scary thing is... it looks like any other SUV with the Honda badge on, nothing special at all.

That really could be a honda.

peter450

1,650 posts

262 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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The scary thing about all these communist regimes is they deny truth that's right in front of them, even on something so petty and insignificant as this, makes you wonder what happens when more important things are at stake.....

Reminds me how lucky i am not to live in a country like this

TheRoadWarrior

1,242 posts

207 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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peter450 said:
The scary thing about all these communist regimes is they deny truth that's right in front of them, even on something so petty and insignificant as this, makes you wonder what happens when more important things are at stake.....

Reminds me how lucky i am not to live in a country like this
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onacrusade

9 posts

267 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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TheRoadWarrior said:
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LOL! Nice reply to Peter450.....though I do agree with him too! :-)

Rumblestripe

4,062 posts

191 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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They would have got away with it... if it wasn't for those pesky kids!


Zoiks!

Court Jester

176 posts

207 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Nice one Roadwarrior. Must say I get equally annoyed at the increasing numbers of flashy BMW 5s, X5s and Audi A6 Avants North Yorkshire Police seem to feel the need to hoon (often dangerously IMO) about our country roads in.

What happened to big Vauxhalls or Fords, or even Volvos, which in the case of the later probably didn't cost much less, but did make people think they were spending public money wisely and not just spending (increasingly precious) public funds on a 'nice car'.

I am sure someone will argue a benefit based on depreciation but I have my doubts here. Is a 5 with a million miles and 4 holes in the roof worth significantly more than a similar mileage and drilled Insignia, Mondeo or Octavia? I doubt it. Does it give out the wrong signals? Definitely. Should NYPA stick the Blue Oval over the Blue and White Propeller? Better ask a spin doctor about that!!!

Mork of Ork

24 posts

204 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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It looks like it's still got Mercedes centre caps on the alloys though?! "they'll think it's just a Honda, as long as they don't look down."

DS240

5,671 posts

247 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Court Jester said:
Nice one Roadwarrior. Must say I get equally annoyed at the increasing numbers of flashy BMW 5s, X5s and Audi A6 Avants North Yorkshire Police seem to feel the need to hoon (often dangerously IMO) about our country roads in.

What happened to big Vauxhalls or Fords, or even Volvos, which in the case of the later probably didn't cost much less, but did make people think they were spending public money wisely and not just spending (increasingly precious) public funds on a 'nice car'.

I am sure someone will argue a benefit based on depreciation but I have my doubts here. Is a 5 with a million miles and 4 holes in the roof worth significantly more than a similar mileage and drilled Insignia, Mondeo or Octavia? I doubt it. Does it give out the wrong signals? Definitely. Should NYPA stick the Blue Oval over the Blue and White Propeller? Better ask a spin doctor about that!!!
I think you'd be pretty amazed at the cost the 'flashy' police cars are actually purchased at.

RemainAllHoof

80,056 posts

311 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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jbi said:
Scary thing is... it looks like any other SUV with the Honda badge on, nothing special at all.

That really could be a honda.
I often wonder how much people would fawn over a BMW or even a Ferrari if it had a Daewoo badge on it. That said, I think if Daewoo brought out an F458 killer, many PHers would buy it as we don't regard the MX5 in the same light the rest of the British public do.

stemll

5,573 posts

229 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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DS240 said:
Court Jester said:
Nice one Roadwarrior. Must say I get equally annoyed at the increasing numbers of flashy BMW 5s, X5s and Audi A6 Avants North Yorkshire Police seem to feel the need to hoon (often dangerously IMO) about our country roads in.

What happened to big Vauxhalls or Fords, or even Volvos, which in the case of the later probably didn't cost much less, but did make people think they were spending public money wisely and not just spending (increasingly precious) public funds on a 'nice car'.

I am sure someone will argue a benefit based on depreciation but I have my doubts here. Is a 5 with a million miles and 4 holes in the roof worth significantly more than a similar mileage and drilled Insignia, Mondeo or Octavia? I doubt it. Does it give out the wrong signals? Definitely. Should NYPA stick the Blue Oval over the Blue and White Propeller? Better ask a spin doctor about that!!!
I think you'd be pretty amazed at the cost the 'flashy' police cars are actually purchased at.
Probably less than they can get a Ford or Vauxhall but it's an impression to the public isn't it? That impression will be of spending too much because they can't get BMWs for that price. Bit of a no-win situation really.

Cassius81

285 posts

218 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Am sure we've had this cost of police vehicles debate before, and as I remember the argument for using BMWs/Audis etc comes down to the fact that (a) they are purchased at a significant discount, (b) they are generally (?!) reliable and wear high mileages well and (c) their re-sale values are better, on the whole, than a Mondeo/Vectra etc.

Not sure I buy the reliability bit, but can see that an ex-police 530d with 150k on it would be worth more than an ex-police Mondeo TDCI with 150k, even relative to initial cost.

As for Range Rovers/X5s though, hmm...

chazwozza

979 posts

215 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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stemll said:
DS240 said:
Court Jester said:
Nice one Roadwarrior. Must say I get equally annoyed at the increasing numbers of flashy BMW 5s, X5s and Audi A6 Avants North Yorkshire Police seem to feel the need to hoon (often dangerously IMO) about our country roads in.

What happened to big Vauxhalls or Fords, or even Volvos, which in the case of the later probably didn't cost much less, but did make people think they were spending public money wisely and not just spending (increasingly precious) public funds on a 'nice car'.

I am sure someone will argue a benefit based on depreciation but I have my doubts here. Is a 5 with a million miles and 4 holes in the roof worth significantly more than a similar mileage and drilled Insignia, Mondeo or Octavia? I doubt it. Does it give out the wrong signals? Definitely. Should NYPA stick the Blue Oval over the Blue and White Propeller? Better ask a spin doctor about that!!!
I think you'd be pretty amazed at the cost the 'flashy' police cars are actually purchased at.
Probably less than they can get a Ford or Vauxhall but it's an impression to the public isn't it? That impression will be of spending too much because they can't get BMWs for that price. Bit of a no-win situation really.
The cars are bought for bugger all and trust me, the Beemers need a LOT less servicing and maintenance than the Fords and Vauxhalls and that is where the money is saved, however such boring facts as this aren't going to sell copies of the daily mail are they...

rpguk

4,515 posts

313 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Surely the argument used for the police using 'premium' cars here in the UK would hold water for China too, maybe even more so as Mercedes would view the Chinese police as a new and potentially enormous market.

I presume the £87k stated in the article is list price with tax etc?

tridave

249 posts

232 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Cassius81 said:
Am sure we've had this cost of police vehicles debate before, and as I remember the argument for using BMWs/Audis etc comes down to the fact that (a) they are purchased at a significant discount, (b) they are generally (?!) reliable and wear high mileages well and (c) their re-sale values are better, on the whole, than a Mondeo/Vectra etc.

Not sure I buy the reliability bit, but can see that an ex-police 530d with 150k on it would be worth more than an ex-police Mondeo TDCI with 150k, even relative to initial cost.

As for Range Rovers/X5s though, hmm...
mmmmmm a. I think a discount would apply to any major manufacturer, b. Reliability ?? Milgae prob agree with c. resale value maybe.

the one that gets my goat it the highway agency running up and down motorways in Landrover Disco's aaaarrrrgggg,

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Fengchenggang, eh..?

I wondered where Gary Glitter had got to...

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

211 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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DS240 said:
I think you'd be pretty amazed at the cost the 'flashy' police cars are actually purchased at.
Go on then, knowledge is only power when it is shared.

gavner81

59 posts

209 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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here, here! i'm ready to be amazed.

I heard that Humberside Police have now reverted to Focus Diesels as opposed to their infamous LPG Protons on the basis that whole life costs for the focus will be lower. Not sure what the whole life costs of their Lexus V8 might be.

Surely, this info is available 'in the public interest' via the freedom of information Act?

Papa Hotel said:
DS240 said:
I think you'd be pretty amazed at the cost the 'flashy' police cars are actually purchased at.
Go on then, knowledge is only power when it is shared.