Want to leave car taxed but offroad / uninsured
Want to leave car taxed but offroad / uninsured
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KardioKate

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1,584 posts

183 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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Is it possible any more?

Basically, brother's sold his car but new buyer can't pick up for a couple of weeks. We know the buyer personally - no problems there.

But he's taking delivery of his new car tomorrow, and his insurance co have been instructed to switch the insurance as of midnight tonight.

Post office man says we can't do this unless we SORN the old car - which is silly to tax it again in two weeks?

Downton Mini

1,026 posts

193 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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As far as I am aware the only way to do it is sorn it or get the buyer to insure it form tonight

KardioKate

Original Poster:

1,584 posts

183 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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Downton Mini said:
As far as I am aware the only way to do it is sorn it or get the buyer to insure it form tonight
Ridiculous. Neither is really sensible nor possible.

Gah.

What happens if we don't?

LuS1fer

43,508 posts

274 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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As long as the car is not SORN'd, it MUST now be insured at all times so if the new owner has insured it, it can remain taxed and unSORN'd anywhere you like. Have I missed something?

KardioKate

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183 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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LuS1fer said:
As long as the car is not SORN'd, it MUST now be insured at all times so if the new owner has insured it, it can remain taxed and unSORN'd anywhere you like. Have I missed something?
New owner can't insure it until he shifts his car, within the next two weeks.

LuS1fer

43,508 posts

274 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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KardioKate said:
LuS1fer said:
As long as the car is not SORN'd, it MUST now be insured at all times so if the new owner has insured it, it can remain taxed and unSORN'd anywhere you like. Have I missed something?
New owner can't insure it until he shifts his car, within the next two weeks.
Ah, I see, misread it. Then the onus is on the new owner to insure it surely? Can't they get their insurers to offer temp cover?

KardioKate

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1,584 posts

183 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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LuS1fer said:
Ah, I see, misread it. Then the onus is on the new owner to insure it surely? Can't they get their insurers to offer temp cover?
We'll have to see what can be done then. Makes things rather difficult when there's a chain of car sales involved though frown

Alfanatic

9,339 posts

248 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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To add further complications, I believe that when you SORN it, you agree not to tax it again for 21 days.

Hot Dog Harrigan

3,762 posts

247 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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As long as it's being kept off road I don't think anything will happen in two weeks, the first thing they'll do is send you a reminder letter advising to insure or sorn. Even if that does happen within two weeks, which I highly doubt, all you have to do is tell the new owner to sort out some insurance.

GreigM

6,740 posts

278 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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I agree with the above - while technically you need to have it insured, I don't think the DVLA are efficient enough to do anything about it within the fortnight period.

KaraK

13,805 posts

238 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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Easiest way is surely just to get the buyer to get some short term cover on the new car. Unless it's something exotic or the owner is a youngster I can't see it costing that much. When I first bought my daily shed I insured it for a couple of weeks just to tide it over so that both cars would be up together and I could look at options for insuring both on the same policy, didn't cost the earth and I was covered - all legal and whatnot smile

Dr G

15,964 posts

271 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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Date the logbook today then post it off as and when, done.

Downton Mini

1,026 posts

193 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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KardioKate said:
Downton Mini said:
As far as I am aware the only way to do it is sorn it or get the buyer to insure it form tonight
Ridiculous. Neither is really sensible nor possible.

Gah.

What happens if we don't?
Might be ridculous but you asked I answered. If you are the registered keeper the onus is on you to hold the insurance if you have a garage/drive leave it there and see what happens if its left on the road then I would suggest getting some sort of tempory cover

MarJay

2,180 posts

204 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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Blimey there was enough outcry about this law when it was proposed and put to public consultation, but how many people objected? "I'm all right, Jack." most people said.

And now, the result. We're stuck with a draconian law that catches uninsured drivers with a kind of scattergun method. Damn.

66comanche

2,369 posts

188 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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AIUI you don't have to necessarily cash-in the Tax disc when you SORN a vehicle, so SORN it online?

However, what I would do is - nothing. As stated above, the DVLA will not come after you for a two week gap.

redstu

2,287 posts

268 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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66comanche said:
AIUI you don't have to necessarily cash-in the Tax disc when you SORN a vehicle, so SORN it online?

However, what I would do is - nothing. As stated above, the DVLA will not come after you for a two week gap.
That's the way I read it as well, sorn online doesn't say you have to send back the disk.
It took a few online atempts for me to get to the bit where I could send the disk back, although I haven't had my refund yet!