New Car... It's got winter tyres on...
New Car... It's got winter tyres on...
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Deluded

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4,968 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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I've just bought a new car. Very pleased with it.

Noticed when I picked it up that it had a full set of brand new tyres on. Avon, so a good brand. Very pleased.

Just noticed this morning that they are Avon Ice Touring tyres, which are winter/snow tyres.

I didn't notice any odd handling or anything yesterday driving it 70 miles home so I'm not worried really. Are there any adverse effects of running winter tyres throughout the year? How much quicker are they likely to wear than a normal set?

RicksAlfas

14,523 posts

273 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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I had Ice Touring STs on the wife's car over winter and they really were excellent. However you do notice when you put the summer tyres back on that the car drives better.

It would be a shame to wear them out over the summer. Could you run to a set of summer wheels and tyres to save the Avons for the colder weather?

MarJay

2,180 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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They'll wear VERY quickly, and it is a shame as its worth having winter tyres in case it snows like it did this year and last year.

edo

16,699 posts

294 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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MarJay said:
They'll wear VERY quickly, and it is a shame as its worth having winter tyres in case it snows like it did this year and last year.
This is a myth.

They wont.

They will be fine. Leave them on.

freenote

805 posts

197 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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I would imagine you would have more road noise running on winter tyres.

SWH

1,261 posts

231 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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On my old 850 T5 they wore a tiny bit quicker, certainly it was easy to cook the shoulder off the fronts fairly quickly at any time of year... the grip in the warm weather wasn't as good as the P-Zeros I had on the other set of wheels, although still perfectly fine... just the ride comfort was a little compromised, tramlined a bit too, not enough to make me need to swap them over that moment though. The tyre itself was notably heavier than a non winter effort.

Tyre wear on the T5 of course was a rather swift affair at times smile

One advantage I noted - they were simply superb in heavy summer downpours, big puddles/floods and very good on a wet/muddy field.

I'd leave them on.

bga

8,134 posts

280 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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edo said:
MarJay said:
They'll wear VERY quickly, and it is a shame as its worth having winter tyres in case it snows like it did this year and last year.
This is a myth.

They wont.

They will be fine. Leave them on.
The winter Nokians on my wife's car have been on since November and are showing negligible wear after 4000 miles. Steering feel is poor with them on but that's the only real drawback

AT

24,137 posts

223 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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What car?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

233 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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Slightly worse then normal tyres but unless you are trying to set laptimes around the ring it really isn't an issue.


Caulkhead

4,938 posts

186 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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You should be fine. I managed to turn a set of full winters into jelly but it was in a fully loaded Chrysler Voyager on French autoroutes at 30 degrees C rarely dropping below 100mph, so as long as you don't drive too far south, you won't have a problem! smile

Guanocascade

19 posts

213 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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Very good tyres. Have them fitted on a spare set of alloys for my car. Fuel economy suffers a bit due to the increased grip and they have a tendency to go jelly-like at speed.

podwin

652 posts

231 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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I thought my winter tyres were better.

When I put my summer wheels back on the road noise was more and the ride seemed smoother on the winters.

They seemed fine in warmer dry weather, but then again my car only has 100bhp and I drive it like Granddad.

kambites

71,474 posts

250 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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They do generate a bit less grip than good summer tyres in warm weather and they tend to generate a bit more road noise, but there is nothing wrong with leaving them on if you want to.

I probably wouldn't use them in really hot weather but in typical British summer weather, I'd imagine they'll be fine.

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

270 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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The wear argument is a myth. They're primarily designed for use in single figure temperatures and below so aren't at their best in warmer conditions.
Of course, their performance is subjective anyway when you consider peoples driving abailities, vehicle condition, road type etc.

I changed back to summer tyres in late January. If you remember, the weather got mild pretty quickly but morwe pertinently, the slush and water dried up quite a bit.
I hated the feel of them in those conditions. They lost grip and generally gave a feeling on being unsettled on many road surfaces.

The other factor is that a lot of people tend to get budget winter tyres and premium summer tyres, so the disparity is greater and relative performance harder to ascertain. For what it's worth, both sets are from the same manufacturer for my tyres.

The EC regulation is now such that you have to have a warning method in the car to remind you that your winter tyres (99% of the time) will have a lower speed rating. You'll need to bare this in mind if you use them all year, too.

Deluded

Original Poster:

4,968 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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Think I will leave them on then for the time being.

Can't really justify spending out around £280 for a semi decent set of new tyres when the ones on are perfectly usable. Plus, I don't really have anywhere to store them.

As far as drivability goes, it feels fine to me. Handled fine on the motorway upto around 80mph yesterday and grips well around town, not that I've been throwing it around or anything though.

Car is a Primera P12 Estate so it's never going to be sporty but is a nice big wafty barge.

RegMolehusband

4,113 posts

286 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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I've got winters on the front fitted last October. They don't appear to wearing quickly in the warmer weather and the car turns in and handles perfectly.

We've got another couple of months of our so called summer before it starts cooling again so just enjoy the car and the benefits of the winter tyres when the snow arrives.

stewjohnst

2,479 posts

190 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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Its july and pissing it down up north...may as well leave them on if this is summer smile