Idiots who block a lane to "exchange insurance details"
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Not a rant, I'm just a bit amazed by some people.
Some people must be so lacking in common sense that I'm certain that only the repeated administration of extreme pain could help teach them some....
Seen again (and seen before quite often) - utter, utter knob-jockeys who have a tiny bump (ie. so tiny that the damage isn't visible as you go past) in the right hand lane of a motorway/dual cabbageway/middle of a huge junction. So what do they do? Stop where the incident occurred and start exchanging details, or you can see them pointing out some microscopic scratch or similar to the other party. What is wrong with some people - does the notion of pulling off the road/onto the hard shoulder even enter their heads? Nobody is dead - nobody is hurt (until the whiplash claim goes in, that is
). The other thing I've noticed is that invariably they're suit wearing types.
Some people must be so lacking in common sense that I'm certain that only the repeated administration of extreme pain could help teach them some....
Seen again (and seen before quite often) - utter, utter knob-jockeys who have a tiny bump (ie. so tiny that the damage isn't visible as you go past) in the right hand lane of a motorway/dual cabbageway/middle of a huge junction. So what do they do? Stop where the incident occurred and start exchanging details, or you can see them pointing out some microscopic scratch or similar to the other party. What is wrong with some people - does the notion of pulling off the road/onto the hard shoulder even enter their heads? Nobody is dead - nobody is hurt (until the whiplash claim goes in, that is
). The other thing I've noticed is that invariably they're suit wearing types.Years ago, some tit rear-ended me (phnar phnar) and then, after wailing about how his boss was going to kill him for smashing the car for the second time in as many weeks, he wants to stand exchanging details with me in the middle of the road.
I politely put it to him that since neither of us were dead, we should just move to the side of the road and get things sorted from there. This revelation was like I'd just told him the sky was made of nougat.
I politely put it to him that since neither of us were dead, we should just move to the side of the road and get things sorted from there. This revelation was like I'd just told him the sky was made of nougat.
Here in Russia, you can’t move a car till the police arrive and decide who will pay the biggest bribe.
I get driven about 10 miles/ 45 mins each way every day, to and from my hotel/factory, I don’t recall a day when there has not been at least one already chocked road partially blocked by cars waiting for the police to arrive. Its’ crazy, most times there is no damage and both cars would not be considered road worthy in the UK even before the "crash".
I get driven about 10 miles/ 45 mins each way every day, to and from my hotel/factory, I don’t recall a day when there has not been at least one already chocked road partially blocked by cars waiting for the police to arrive. Its’ crazy, most times there is no damage and both cars would not be considered road worthy in the UK even before the "crash".
Biker's Nemesis said:
kambites said:
I believe it's a legal requirement to stop at the scene of any road accident?
Yes it is. That doesn't mean you have to stay where you are if no one is hurt and there's hardly any damage to either cars.Biker's Nemesis said:
Yes it is. That doesn't mean you have to stay where you are if no one is hurt and there's hardly any damage to either cars.
Not entirely true. McDermott v DPP [1997] held driving on for 80 yards and then returning to the other vehicle was not sufficient and the defendant was convicted of failing to stop. I remember a good few years back in france I was going down a two lane motorway with my dad driving, we came to the top of a slope and just past the brow of the hill there were 3 cars all stopped (even though there was a hard shoulder they were still sat in lane 1).
Luckily the driver next to us had the sense to stand on the brakes so we had just enough time to swerve round. All of the cars looked like they had very minor damage.
Luckily the driver next to us had the sense to stand on the brakes so we had just enough time to swerve round. All of the cars looked like they had very minor damage.
LuS1fer said:
Not entirely true. McDermott v DPP [1997] held driving on for 80 yards and then returning to the other vehicle was not sufficient and the defendant was convicted of failing to stop.
Thats crazy!!What about 1 yard? 2 yards? 50 yards?
How on earth did they prove he had gone 80 yards?
Is there a site that lists the details of these cases? Or do you need giant law books that cost thousands of pounds?
andrewrob said:
I remember a good few years back in france I was going down a two lane motorway with my dad driving, we came to the top of a slope and just past the brow of the hill there were 3 cars all stopped (even though there was a hard shoulder they were still sat in lane 1).
Luckily the driver next to us had the sense to stand on the brakes so we had just enough time to swerve round. All of the cars looked like they had very minor damage.
In that case, your dad was driving far too fast. That could just as easily have been a traffic jam or big accident blocking both lanes. Luckily the driver next to us had the sense to stand on the brakes so we had just enough time to swerve round. All of the cars looked like they had very minor damage.
Liquid Tuna said:
However bad your day is that you have to wait a couple of minutes for them to exchange details and then drive off, their day is far worse.
That's hardly the point.So if I have a bad day I can decide to block a road & that's ok ?
Frequently its adding 10+ minutes to hundreds of drivers trips.
I've seen the Police block off 2 lanes on the M way after a minor bump in Lane 1.
There were no injuries.
Yet 4 cops with 2 4x4's "couldn't" move it (TBH I'm 99% sure it would have driven) into the hard shoulder.
Irrotational said:
Thats crazy!!
What about 1 yard? 2 yards? 50 yards?
How on earth did they prove he had gone 80 yards?
Is there a site that lists the details of these cases? Or do you need giant law books that cost thousands of pounds?
Usually these cases involve other offences - the application of common sense is far more widespread but you have to bear in mind that moving a car can often remove vital evidence if liability is in dispute. How often do you have a collision where the person at fault moves their car like a ferret out of a drainpipe into a less incriminating position before squealing "knock for knock". I have personal experience of a woman cutting into my lane and slamming the brakes on and being an obstruction, we moved the cars to a safer position. 12 months down the line and suddenly she is claiming I was in a completely different lane and ran into the back of her.What about 1 yard? 2 yards? 50 yards?
How on earth did they prove he had gone 80 yards?
Is there a site that lists the details of these cases? Or do you need giant law books that cost thousands of pounds?
Dog Star said:
Not a rant, I'm just a bit amazed by some people.
Some people must be so lacking in common sense that I'm certain that only the repeated administration of extreme pain could help teach them some....
Seen again (and seen before quite often) - utter, utter knob-jockeys who have a tiny bump (ie. so tiny that the damage isn't visible as you go past) in the right hand lane of a motorway/dual cabbageway/middle of a huge junction. So what do they do? Stop where the incident occurred and start exchanging details, or you can see them pointing out some microscopic scratch or similar to the other party. What is wrong with some people - does the notion of pulling off the road/onto the hard shoulder even enter their heads? Nobody is dead - nobody is hurt (until the whiplash claim goes in, that is). The other thing I've noticed is that invariably they're suit wearing types.
I would generally get a few photographs showing the positions of the cars then , ASAP , move them to safety .Some people must be so lacking in common sense that I'm certain that only the repeated administration of extreme pain could help teach them some....
Seen again (and seen before quite often) - utter, utter knob-jockeys who have a tiny bump (ie. so tiny that the damage isn't visible as you go past) in the right hand lane of a motorway/dual cabbageway/middle of a huge junction. So what do they do? Stop where the incident occurred and start exchanging details, or you can see them pointing out some microscopic scratch or similar to the other party. What is wrong with some people - does the notion of pulling off the road/onto the hard shoulder even enter their heads? Nobody is dead - nobody is hurt (until the whiplash claim goes in, that is
). The other thing I've noticed is that invariably they're suit wearing types.LuS1fer said:
... 12 months down the line and suddenly she is claiming I was in a completely different lane and ran into the back of her.
No surprise there. I was a witness (in lane 3) to a similar where driver in lane 1 jumped into lane 2 to stop from rear-ending the almost stationary car infront of him which he had ignored until it was too late.Chap infront of me had no chance, I knew what would happen next so stopped to act as a witness for poor bloke infront. Sure enough the guilty party spent months trying to wriggle out of it, changing their story so many times it wasn't true.
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