RE: Spotted: Ferrari 365GTB/4 DaytonaR
Thursday 21st July 2011
Just dipping briefly back into the world of classics, H&H are holding an auction on the 21st September at the Imperial War Museum. The flavour is predominantly pre-war and there are some rather magnificent offerings if you like your running-boards and externally mounted spare wheels (I'm not so sure about the Bentley MkVI special though), as well as a handsome DB5 and a shouty '63 Corvette if you don't.
The vendor's reluctance to let the car go for a below-estimate bid was perhaps understandable seeing as though it had over £45,000 lavished upon it since 2007 - including a repaint, a full service by DK Engineering, and the installation of a power steering system.
The estimate is £150,000 - 180,000, although it's probably safe to ignore the lower estimate and look at something north of £170,000 as a likely selling price. A Ferrari specialist I spoke to about this car reckoned that if it did go for that then it would be very good value.
Spotted: Ferrari 365GTB/4 Daytona
Has anyone not actually dreamed of owning one of these?
What really caught my eye, however, was one of the more modern lots - a 1973 Ferrari GTB/4 Daytona. At the Goodwood FoS auction we watched an exceptional example attract a top bid of £195,000, but that was decided to be not enough against a low estimate of £210,000.
The one at H&H isn't exactly a dog either and, like the Goodwood car, it's also reputedly one of just 149 right-hand-drive examples. It had a full body restoration by specialists David AC Royle and Co in 2006, and boasts a very low recorded mileage of just over 16,000.
H&H are currently tracing the car's previous owners in order to copper-bottom that figure before the auction, and so far they've managed to lay their hands on MOTs going back to 1978 which support it. The only known fact about this car which could possibly detract from its value is that it was originally finished in Blue Chiaro.
Discussion
Corsair7 said:
Cars with only on wing mirror freak me out. Even something as beautiful as that. Just not right.
everything must be in balance. I would say its an 'OCD' type thing, but someone with OCD would be freaked out if it had TWO wing mirrors (because it wouldnt be right).
Wind mirrors are not always fitted to Daytonas and many (including the ones on mine) are dealer fit items.everything must be in balance. I would say its an 'OCD' type thing, but someone with OCD would be freaked out if it had TWO wing mirrors (because it wouldnt be right).
For my views (as an owner) on current Daytona values; http://www.drivecult.com/driving/the-garage/ferrar...
Edited by 365daytonafan on Thursday 21st July 09:35
SPOTTED: FERRARI 365GTB/4 DAYTONA: Has anyone not actually dreamed of owning one of these?
I've never dreamt about a Daytona, I only like it because it reminds me of the Rover SD1 (I am being serious). Stylistically, the Ferrari is just too nose heavy and lack the finesse of say a 308 or F40.
I've never dreamt about a Daytona, I only like it because it reminds me of the Rover SD1 (I am being serious). Stylistically, the Ferrari is just too nose heavy and lack the finesse of say a 308 or F40.
My ex's father was an owner of many Ferraris in the 70's and 80's. One of which was a brown (!) Daytona convertible in RHD. He sold it for peanuts when the values were very low afaik. (oh and he was probably the most cack handed driver I have ever had the displeasure of sharing a car with). (RIP).
vetteheadracer said:
Always loved the 365 Ferrari, even liked the replica ones built on a Corvette chassis as used in Miami Vice 
It was kind of realistic for an undercover cop to drive a 'replica' Daytona, but then when Ferrari USA gave them a Testarossa it got a little bit beyond belief...365daytonafan said:
Wind mirrors are not always fitted to Daytonas and many (including the ones on mine) are dealer fit items.
For my views (as an owner) on current Daytona values; http://www.drivecult.com/driving/the-garage/ferrar...
yeah, I've realised on checking that many dont have any wing mirrors, but all the ones I've seen seem to only have had drivers side fitted. I saw one with two wing mirrors but it looked awful as they were cheapo crappy ones (it was probably a replica car rather than genuine I would guess). Yours is the first I've seen with two mirrors that looks absolutly right. Its beautiful, and properly balanced. For my views (as an owner) on current Daytona values; http://www.drivecult.com/driving/the-garage/ferrar...
Edited by 365daytonafan on Thursday 21st July 09:35
Can I ask, whats the mileage on your car? You seem to be 'unafraid' of actually using it, which I greatly respect.
Corsair7 said:
yeah, I've realised on checking that many dont have any wing mirrors, but all the ones I've seen seem to only have had drivers side fitted. I saw one with two wing mirrors but it looked awful as they were cheapo crappy ones (it was probably a replica car rather than genuine I would guess). Yours is the first I've seen with two mirrors that looks absolutly right. Its beautiful, and properly balanced.
Can I ask, whats the mileage on your car? You seem to be 'unafraid' of actually using it, which I greatly respect.
Slightly tricky answer that speedo says 40,000 but it's not first one so I think total mileage is around 51,000 The original is in the garage somewhere. Can I ask, whats the mileage on your car? You seem to be 'unafraid' of actually using it, which I greatly respect.
My Dad brought the car in 1974 (when it and I were a year old) and used it as his company car for the next three years racked up 30,000 miles in that time. Car is part of the family now.
Wing mirrors weren't originally fitted, I had them put on a couple of years when I took it to the Le Mans Classic. Decided I needed extra vision on the other side of the road.
I do try and use it as much as I can but it's on a limited mileage insurance policy that is a little restrictive. Also needing V power plus additive to get at best 14 mpg the Sunday morning run outs are expensive these days.
Comments that the steering are heavy is true but mine has had power steering from a 400i fitted. makes a massive improvement at the expense of a little vagueness on the striaght ahead at higher speeds.
sunsurfer said:
Not sure why a previous owner re painted the car from blue (Blue Chiaro) to red. Red Ferrari with tan hide interior is a bit of a cliche.
Lovely Daytona though...
Back in the late 80/early 90s when Ferrari prices were going beserk, a lot of nice coloured cars were painted to 'resale red' to maximise on the price rise bandwagon Lovely Daytona though...
Sid123 said:
Stunning cars no doubt about it. Sit in one, push the clutch down and then see how far you'd want to drive one in town......
Actually the clutch isn't that heavy, and despite being old and Italian it maintains good engine temprature in traffic too. I try and avoid driving it in traffic as the heat soak from the engine makes the cockpit very hot without air flow from moving at speed.What no reports really talk about is how heavy the throttle pedal is connected up to the six twin choke webers. You could never get away with the line I didn't realise how fast I was travelling in a Daytona that's for sure.
Insight said:
SPOTTED: FERRARI 365GTB/4 DAYTONA: Has anyone not actually dreamed of owning one of these?
I've never dreamt about a Daytona, I only like it because it reminds me of the Rover SD1 (I am being serious). Stylistically, the Ferrari is just too nose heavy and lack the finesse of say a 308 or F40.
Ha! in 1979 my Dad had a Ferrari 400 (yeah, I know)and when I first saw a Rover SD1 I asked my Dad if it was a new Ferrari! :-) I've never dreamt about a Daytona, I only like it because it reminds me of the Rover SD1 (I am being serious). Stylistically, the Ferrari is just too nose heavy and lack the finesse of say a 308 or F40.
Saw a nice original non-red Daytona parked in Geneva earlier this year. It looked in sound condition but was definitely not a garage queen, in fact it was more of a kennel as there was a spaniel of some sort sleeping in the passenger footwell! Good effort!
20 odd years ago I first had a good look at one when I bumped into Klaas Zwaart (he of Ascari fame) near Aberdeen. He had a lovely one at the time (that I guestimated would have been worth circa GBP250k back then at end of the Eighties boom) but he was happy to chat about it and it sounded glorious when he zoomed off with those evocative Ansa (?) quad tail pipes and of course the induction sound from the carb's.
20 odd years ago I first had a good look at one when I bumped into Klaas Zwaart (he of Ascari fame) near Aberdeen. He had a lovely one at the time (that I guestimated would have been worth circa GBP250k back then at end of the Eighties boom) but he was happy to chat about it and it sounded glorious when he zoomed off with those evocative Ansa (?) quad tail pipes and of course the induction sound from the carb's.
CampDavid said:
A silver one wmade £165k+ around £23k in fees at Coys. Looked tasy enough but I didn't have such a good root around it.
Daytona fan - I've missed your blogs since the demise of DR
Head to www.drivecult.com collection of ex DR followers have built our own site :-) Daytona fan - I've missed your blogs since the demise of DR
I thought that the difference in price between the Daytona at the Bonham's sale at Goodwood and the 1971 365GTC/4 Berlinetta [Chassis no. 14807 Engine no. 4390] which went for £62,000 was very instructive. The GTC was a lovely looking thing, and seemed like a complete bargain compared to the Daytona.
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