The Omanis are ahead of the electric car game
The Omanis are ahead of the electric car game
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koolchris99

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12,521 posts

208 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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http://main.omanobserver.om/node/58687

Ambitious, 0-60 in 4 seconds and 3600km range, for £16k ?

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By Salim al Jahwari - MUSCAT — The Ministry of Commerce and Industry has issued the first licence for the construction of the first electric car manufacture factory in the Sultanate. The factory, which is licensed to assemble cars, will have an annual capacity of 120 cars, with commercial production set at January 2014. The licence was issued in favour of Nur Majan company, which also gives its name to the new car.

Sultan al Amri, the man who proposed to set up the factory, said that Nur Majan, the first model of which has already constructed, will be sent after its launch next January to Hong Kong where its parts will be dismantled and sent to 693 factories in the United States, Germany, Japan and China for mass production.

Al Amri pointed out that the factory, which is likely to come up in Barka or Sohar, is expected to cost RO 16.2 million. The car, which can cover a distance of more than 3,000 kilometres in one charging, is expected to cost between RO 10,000 and RO 30,000, depending on the specifications, said Al Amri, noting that the taxi of the same make and some other models will be cheaper.


anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Ambitious, no. Impossible, yes.......... ;-)


(3000km range?? i don't think so)

koolchris99

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Thursday 21st July 2011
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LuS1fer

43,509 posts

274 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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So 16k plus 10% import duty is 17200 plus 20% VAT would be £19640 which still seems remarkably cheap given the prices other manufacturers are charging. with the Government £5k incentive, it might even be worth it.

koolchris99

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Thursday 21st July 2011
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its obiously some kind of weird scam scheme im just not sure how, There is ZERO way you can build an electric car with a range of 3600KM. let alone with the 0-60 times they think..

Strange how they got the deal signed in the summer, when anyone with any common sense is out the country..

freecar

4,249 posts

216 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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koolchris99 said:
its obiously some kind of weird scam scheme im just not sure how, There is ZERO way you can build an electric car with a range of 3600KM. let alone with the 0-60 times they think..

Strange how they got the deal signed in the summer, when anyone with any common sense is out the country..
Of course you can, they make no mention of how long it'll take to cover the range, when you run out of electricity there is enough power to raise a pair of sails all you have to do is wait for the wind!

Greg_D

6,542 posts

275 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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This has Gordon Murray written all over it, it is as far fetched and desperate sounding as his istream b0llocks.

The Wookie

14,209 posts

257 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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koolchris99 said:
Ambitious, 0-60 in 4 seconds and 3600km range, for £16k ?
rofl

I can't even begin to imagine how big a current tech battery would have to be to manage 3600km!! 10 tonnes maybe? Probably about half a million quid as well!

Piepiepie

1,347 posts

183 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Do you think the Sultans are realising their oil wont last forever? :P

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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The Wookie said:
koolchris99 said:
Ambitious, 0-60 in 4 seconds and 3600km range, for £16k ?
rofl

I can't even begin to imagine how big a current tech battery would have to be to manage 3600km!! 10 tonnes maybe? Probably about half a million quid as well!
somewhat worse than even that:

typical road load at 50mph is approx 16kW for a typical car, at which speed it would take you 44.7 hrs to do 3600km. So total "tractive" energy required at the wheels is 716kWh.

So, even if you somehow could have a 100% efficient drive system (no battery losses, no power electronics and power distribution losses, no traction machine loses etc!!) then your battery will have to be able to supply 716kWh at a suitable voltage.

A typical Pruis battery has an energy density of 44Wh/kg, so 716kWh would weigh 16,272kg !!!


(And that's gota be accelerated to 60 in sub 4 sec!!!) "Yea, canna break the laws of physics Captn" !!!

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 21st July 16:42

koolchris99

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Thursday 21st July 2011
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Piepiepie said:
Do you think the Sultans are realising their oil wont last forever? :P
Oman is usually free of stupid schemes like this, im not sure whats going on.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

233 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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koolchris99 said:
Ambitious, 0-60 in 4 seconds
Doable

koolchris99 said:
3600km
Bonkers

koolchris99 said:
for £16k ?
Only if its a G-wiz



Auburn852

87 posts

183 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Surely the reporter got the numbers mixed up?

120 cars per year and a range of 3000km?

I think more like 3000 cars per year and a range of 120km.

How can anyone make a business out of selling 120 cars per year at £16k each? Just doesn't calculate.

NHK244V

3,358 posts

201 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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Perhaps the body is made of photovoltaic cells idea

AUDIHenry

2,201 posts

216 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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This is utter BS. The manufacturing costs alone for such a small scale operation would be way more than what they're projecting, and that's if it were a petrol car without the need for additional development. This will not materialize, at least not in the terms described in the article.

McSam

6,753 posts

204 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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So how long until someone there realises it should have said 360km?

Still preposterously ambition, though, they have no chance even of that with today's technology.

Targarama

14,784 posts

312 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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Auburn852 said:
Surely the reporter got the numbers mixed up?

120 cars per year and a range of 3000km?

I think more like 3000 cars per year and a range of 120km.

How can anyone make a business out of selling 120 cars per year at £16k each? Just doesn't calculate.
This is the Middle East. Many businesses are just playthings for their owners, they don't actually make a profit.

I'm sure there is a mixup with the miles per charge, possibly 300km. Looks like an interesting project to waste money on though. However, it won't get many locals out of their LandCruisers, its just a toy for their teenage sons who have graduated from annoying locals in Al Azaiba on their quadbikes smile

koolchris99

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208 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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Where abouts in Muscat are you?


Bonefish Blues

36,515 posts

252 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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McSam said:
So how long until someone there realises it should have said 360km?

Still preposterously ambition, though, they have no chance even of that with today's technology.
Only if they unplug it scratchchin

The Wookie

14,209 posts

257 months

Friday 22nd July 2011
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McSam said:
So how long until someone there realises it should have said 360km?

Still preposterously ambition, though, they have no chance even of that with today's technology.
If it was a typo then with the claims of 360km, $16k and 0-60 in 4 seconds then it really is a case of choose one because you wont get the other two.