Lost wheel key - had an idea, will this work?
Lost wheel key - had an idea, will this work?
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paolow

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3,261 posts

287 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
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About a year ago it suddenly occurred that I couldnt lay my hands on my locking wheel nut key. No worries, it'll soon turn up I thought...
Well, clearly it isnt and given the relative fragility of my front wishbones I am very reluctant to try the 'hammer on a smaller nut' method (anthough I am quite certain that would work!
The nuts arent a million miles away from these:



So my idea is to get a socket that will just fit over the nut, fill it with 'chemical metal' or 'sets like steel', let it set and then undo? Hopefully? The wheels are Sierra 'Phonedial' alloys so theres plenty of space and zero risk of actually being nicked! Hubs are Sierra all round if that makes a difference?

mat13

1,977 posts

210 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
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With those raised edges it would be dead easy to tap the nuts off with a hammer and punch, ive done it a couple of times on round lock nuts, it should be a lot easier with those.

Magic919

14,500 posts

230 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
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paolow said:
Well, clearly it isnt and given the relative fragility of my front wishbones I am very reluctant to try the 'hammer on a smaller nut' method (anthough I am quite certain that would work!
It's more usual to hammer on a smaller socket, not nut.

falkster

4,258 posts

232 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
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Your local garage should have the tool to remove them.

Alex@POD

6,454 posts

244 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
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This would do the trick...

paolow

Original Poster:

3,261 posts

287 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
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Magic919 said:
It's more usual to hammer on a smaller socket, not nut.
Big night last night frown
My brain did know what it meant...

paolow

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3,261 posts

287 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
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Alex@POD said:
This would do the trick...
I saw those though the principal issue would be that I would struggle to get the nut out again when I had removed it...

gowmonster

2,471 posts

196 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
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Alex@POD

6,454 posts

244 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
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paolow said:
I saw those though the principal issue would be that I would struggle to get the nut out again when I had removed it...
Nah it comes off OK. I used to buy cars at salvage auctions with a friend, and quite often they came with locking wheel nuts we'd need to remove. With the type of nut in the picture, they work well. IIRC once the nut is loose, if you try to put it back on while still on the remover it will go fingertight only. Either that or a bit of a knock and it comes off.

steveo3002

11,205 posts

203 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
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hammer a socket on , chemical metal and the like wont be strong enough by a long way

Simond S

4,519 posts

306 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
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Ask local AA man, he'll undo it in seconds for a fiver!

soad

34,652 posts

205 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
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gowmonster said:
Wow, just wow!

paolow

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3,261 posts

287 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
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soad said:
Wow, just wow!
I knew what that one would be loooong before I checked it!
fking wheel nut key! Where are you!!!!!!!!!11

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Sunday 24th July 2011
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Alex@POD said:
This would do the trick...
I've tried one of those before and it was crap tbh. The edge gets a bur on it after one use then it doesn't work again.

These worked better, you just hammer them on:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irwin-Bolt-Grip-Remover-Ex...

paintman

7,860 posts

219 months

Sunday 24th July 2011
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Just get your local tyre fitters to get them off. Will likely cost you less than the price of the tool & will save wasting your time with 'chemical metal' or such. (Think they charged my eldest about a tenner when he lost the tool for his Peugeot)

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Sunday 24th July 2011
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EDLT said:
These worked better, you just hammer them on:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irwin-Bolt-Grip-Remover-Ex...
Those are what I used - they took the nuts off quicker than the right key would - no hammering on or anything. So easy that I decided locking wheel nuts are a waste of time - they inconvenience the owner more than any thief with an Irwin remover!

edo

16,699 posts

294 months

Sunday 24th July 2011
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Alex@POD said:
This would do the trick...
These work well - mate and I used one to remove a trashed nut on his Jeep - pretty much a use once affair though...