Lexus IS200 - should I sell, swap, fix or keep it?
Lexus IS200 - should I sell, swap, fix or keep it?

Poll: Lexus IS200 - should I sell, swap, fix or keep it?

Total Members Polled: 34

Sell: 7
Swap: 3
Fix: 11
Keep: 17
Other (respond with your comments): 2
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TonyRPH

Original Poster:

13,539 posts

198 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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You can select multiple answers - if you select other please elaborate in your response. Thanks.

Back in April I bought a '51 reg Lexus IS200, with 86k miles on, 2 former keepers.

I've only added 1000k miles since then.

Following a saga with brakes and tyres*, it ended up costing me the best part of £800 for 4x new tyres and 4x discs / pads and one caliper before I had owned it for a month.

The car is pretty much mint, with a (very) minor scrape on the bonnet lip, and a scuff on the bumper along with some minor swirl marks.

In recent weeks, it has developed a clutch judder (which isn't there all the time) and looking on the Lexus IS forums, judder is a common complaint (a 'feature' if you like).
This clutch judder can vary in severity, and is always fine when the car has four people in it which I find odd!

Also, the 'box clunks when changing into 2nd (although this can be worked around by getting the revs right - I presume this is slow synchromesh) and this too would appear to be another 'feature', as apparently many of them did this from new.

So, this is my 25th car in 10 years - and I'm hankering after another 406 Coupe, but having just been through a period of unemployment, lack the funds to add to any purchase.

Do I try and sell it? Should I keep it?

The rest of the car is absolutely fine by the way, the aircon works, CD changer works etc.

Oh, the drive shaft oil seals weep a bit.

* For the tyre saga, see this thread

exgtt

2,067 posts

242 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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I'd sell up purley because I was running one of these a few months ago - an auto in imaculate condition bar the cd changer and a wheel bearing. Simply could not stomach the mpg vs performace. 24mpg ave and 0-60 in 10secs anyone? Good solid motors, but I'd cut my losses and get something more in Line with the times.

TonyRPH

Original Poster:

13,539 posts

198 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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Mine is a manual, and I do find the performance acceptable (just).

I've never owned anything 'blindingly' quick, so perhaps that's why!


exgtt

2,067 posts

242 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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The autos a good smooth strong unit, but it's a 4 speed. 38mph in 1st then a change into 2nd which takes you to just over 70. It dropped out of vvti for a bit between 1st and 2nd which killed the acceleration. Proper frustration! I love the is200, Lexus had an e36 beater on there hands but put a 2.0 6cyl in only?? ? I get the feeling lexus were taking a big gamble with the is200, and bottled investing in engine design. Shame.

Edited by exgtt on Tuesday 26th July 15:36

Stu R

21,641 posts

245 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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I'd keep it personally. You've invested the thick end of a grand in it already, might as well get some use out of it and it might help you stash some pennies for the car you really do want. Could be worth getting the gearbox oil changed? But if it's not getting any worse...

EDLT

15,421 posts

236 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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If you've just done the tyres and breaks, and the gearbox/clutch issues are considered "normal" then I'd keep it and get some use out of it then sell it on before it needs tyre/brakes again.

nickdrinkwater

839 posts

220 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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exgtt said:
The autos a good smooth strong unit, but it's a 4 speed. 38mph in 1st then a change into 2nd which takes you to just over 70. It dropped out of vvti for a bit between 1st and 2nd which killed the acceleration. Proper frustration! I love the is200, Lexus had an e36 beater on there hands but put a 2.0 6cyl in only?? ? I get the feeling lexus were taking a big gamble with the is200, and bottled investing in engine design. Shame.

Edited by exgtt on Tuesday 26th July 15:36
There was an IS300 which was similar to the 200 but with a 3.0 litre straight six.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

230 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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Are Peugeot's reliable though?

TonyRPH

Original Poster:

13,539 posts

198 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
Are Peugeot's reliable though?
I had a 406 Coupe a couple of years back, and apart from a spring breaking it was very reliable over the year that I owned it.


exgtt

2,067 posts

242 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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nickdrinkwater said:
There was an IS300 which was similar to the 200 but with a 3.0 litre straight six.
Yeah think it was only offered as an auto? And the 3.0 wasn't the best, bit of an old lump?

TonyRPH

Original Poster:

13,539 posts

198 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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exgtt said:
nickdrinkwater said:
There was an IS300 which was similar to the 200 but with a 3.0 litre straight six.
Yeah think it was only offered as an auto? And the 3.0 wasn't the best, bit of an old lump?
I don't think the IS300 was very well received. You certainly don't seem to see many about.


TonyRPH

Original Poster:

13,539 posts

198 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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So..

This has been bought back to the fore by a quote of £900 for a reconditioned gearbox and new clutch today.

I would appreciate some comment and votes!!

TIA.

turbopug

285 posts

183 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
Are Peugeot's reliable though?
Don't be silly

jas xjr

11,309 posts

269 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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TonyRPH said:
So..

This has been bought back to the fore by a quote of £900 for a reconditioned gearbox and new clutch today.

I would appreciate some comment and votes!!

TIA.
Is that supply only or is it fitted ?

TonyRPH

Original Poster:

13,539 posts

198 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Supply and fit.

2 year warranty.


Stu R

21,641 posts

245 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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You're looking for a cost to change of £0.

You're not going to sell a car with a knackered gearbox easily (I'm assuming it has actually got worse and needs replacing).

So, assuming there's nothing else wrong with the car, I still think you'd be mad not to get some use out of it to offset the money you've put into it getting it in good order - otherwise you've bought a car, paid to get it tip-top and given someone else the benefit.

Sounds like you've had a bit of bad luck, but I'd still give it a chance, the first round of expense was consumables after all - factor in the buttache of shifting the car and finding a replacement (which you'll still have little guarantee of long term trouble free motoring in - and I'd still trust the IS before a Pug)... smile

SuperHangOn

3,486 posts

183 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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I would fix it. Better the devil you know and being a Lexus its likely to be the end of your woes.

k-ink

9,070 posts

209 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Sell it and buy an IS300. Same MPG, much faster.

TonyRPH

Original Poster:

13,539 posts

198 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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k-ink said:
Sell it and buy an IS300. Same MPG, much faster.
I like your thinking smile


s m

24,475 posts

233 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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exgtt said:
Lexus had an e36 beater on there hands but put a 2.0 6cyl in only?? ? I get the feeling lexus were taking a big gamble with the is200, and bottled investing in engine design. Shame.
I drove one of these and a very early E46 328i back to back at one of the Company Car In Action days they used to have at Millbrook back in the late 90s. I really liked the is200 but I think with an engine in like the 328i had it could have been a real contender. It was really well made and handled nicely on the handling circuit but just felt a bit flat on the bowl.