Octane Boosters
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Original Poster:

1,476 posts

208 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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If I filled my cars tank, then found out it wants higher octane fuel, can I just dump in a bottle of octane booster or will it not mix?

DannyVTS

7,543 posts

197 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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What car?

Cars have knock sensors to detect fuel quality and adjust the ecu to suit

You will lose performance of course

Triumph Man

9,586 posts

197 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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In my experience, many are just snake oil. If you have an older car (as do I) which requires higher octance fuel, there is a good reason for it, as it will prevent pinking etc. Obviously old cars don't have knock sensors to retard the timing to compensate.

I completely agree with Danny VTS, with a modern car, don't worry about it. Although if you are, make sure you don't get a lead additive/octance booster combined, as many are.

craig7584

152 posts

188 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Even on newer cars it's important to run the octane level the car was designed for. A high compression engine needs higher octane to prevent spontaneous combustion of fuel at the wrong point in the stroke. Yes your knock sensor will detect this misfire but it still puts strain on the components and causes the engine to run hotter so best not to do it often.

Apparently you should find that because the engine runs smoother on the higher octane stuff it doesn't work out that much more expensive because its more economical.

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

220 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Didn't they do a test on Fifth Gear that showed they reduced power?

MX7

7,902 posts

203 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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james_gt3rs said:
Didn't they do a test on Fifth Gear that showed they reduced power?
Yup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jbcCr2ll3c

Don't bother.

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

227 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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craig7584 said:
Apparently you should find that because the engine runs smoother on the higher octane stuff it doesn't work out that much more expensive because its more economical.
So they say. I tested a few tanks of 99 in my turbo car and while it did increase MPG, it wasn't by enough to offset the higher cost.
Which was a shame because it did seem faster smile

littleredrooster

6,380 posts

225 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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....and no-one has yet answered the OP's question.

Yes - dump a bottle of octane booster in it. It will mix fine.

MX7

7,902 posts

203 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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littleredrooster said:
....and no-one has yet answered the OP's question.
Yes they did. It's fking pointless.

b4rk3r

222 posts

217 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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On modern turbo cars I think it's pointless. Older turbo cars are a lot more sensitive to different fuel.

Old MR2 Turbo i had ran like a bag of nails on 95 RON. Whereas Tesco 99 used to feel smoother and give better MPG.

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,918 posts

245 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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When I was racing (bikes not cars so we're talking engines that rev to 13,000) we tried a day on the dyno with these on our tuned R1 (lumpy cams, hi comp pistons etc) and they all made F all difference.

We did get good gains from proper 101 octane race fuel from Elf though, but it was quite dear at £100 for 25 litres...and that was back in '05, I dread to think how much it costs now!


Speedracer329

1,507 posts

206 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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b4rk3r said:
Old MR2 Turbo i had ran like a bag of nails on 95 RON. Whereas Tesco 99 used to feel smoother and give better MPG.
Not surprised, they are designed to run on 97 RON minimum!

It's a wonder you didn't sh4g it!

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Certain cars need high octane, others don't. Unless you've got a knock sensor (or a distributor) the car won't perform any better with high octane fuel.

Most performance cars which need high octane fuel will run on standard if driven gently. There will likely be a section in the manual about driving when no high octane fuel is available.

b4rk3r

222 posts

217 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Speedracer329 said:
Not surprised, they are designed to run on 97 RON minimum!

It's a wonder you didn't sh4g it!
It was very low on fuel, and tesco had ran out of 99. I didn't hammer it.

TonyRPH

13,539 posts

197 months

Sunday 31st July 2011
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Under light running and keeping the revs down, it is very unlikely there will be any ill effect at all.

Back in the 80's I used to run a MKII Escort, with an 11.5:1 CR.

You could sometimes hear that detonating at high engine speeds (fuel quality was a bit variable where I lived), and all I had to do was back off a bit and it was fine.

I ran it for 5 years and didn't manage to burn any holes in pistons, or incur any other problems.

All that's needed is a little mechanical sympathy, that's all.