parking issue - please tell me if i am being unreasonalble
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I have recently started to rent a parking space in the basement of an apartment building close to work.
The entrance is a an automatic roller shutter that rises when you swipe your card and stays up for a couple of minutes then closes.
Twice now some bloke who i presume is the caretaker has pounced on me first thing in the morning and had a go at me for not waiting on the ramp until the door has closed. His reasoning behind this is so that no "scallies" sneak in.
My space is about 30 yards from the gate, i can see it in my rear view as i drive slowly in and i can see it clearly closing as i stand at the boot of my car getting my work stuff out, putting my jacket on etc before i walk off to work.
The residents of this quite large block also seem to use the car park entrance as a pedestrian entrance so my argument to him, is if i sit on the ramp and a person unknown to me enters on foot, or comes behind me in a vehicle how am i supposed to know if they live in the building or not.
He is suggesting that i should challenge them and ask to see their swipe card, i seriously cant be arsed with this, surely if the area is that bad they need to beef up their security rather than having me, a tenant, stopping people.
What if the person says, "i live here but i havent got my card" am i supposed to physically stop them from coming in?
I am thinking of calling the letting agency to discuss it with them especially as this guy has threatened to cancel my swipe card however i am not sure if i am just being grumpy about it.
The entrance is a an automatic roller shutter that rises when you swipe your card and stays up for a couple of minutes then closes.
Twice now some bloke who i presume is the caretaker has pounced on me first thing in the morning and had a go at me for not waiting on the ramp until the door has closed. His reasoning behind this is so that no "scallies" sneak in.
My space is about 30 yards from the gate, i can see it in my rear view as i drive slowly in and i can see it clearly closing as i stand at the boot of my car getting my work stuff out, putting my jacket on etc before i walk off to work.
The residents of this quite large block also seem to use the car park entrance as a pedestrian entrance so my argument to him, is if i sit on the ramp and a person unknown to me enters on foot, or comes behind me in a vehicle how am i supposed to know if they live in the building or not.
He is suggesting that i should challenge them and ask to see their swipe card, i seriously cant be arsed with this, surely if the area is that bad they need to beef up their security rather than having me, a tenant, stopping people.
What if the person says, "i live here but i havent got my card" am i supposed to physically stop them from coming in?
I am thinking of calling the letting agency to discuss it with them especially as this guy has threatened to cancel my swipe card however i am not sure if i am just being grumpy about it.
At what point in the setting up of he parking arrangement did you agree to also become a deputy of their security team!?
Sounds like this caretaker is an a
hole to me... Quiet word with the building superintendent/manager if I were you, given that you've already tried to reason with him face to face and had no success.
Sounds like this caretaker is an a
hole to me... Quiet word with the building superintendent/manager if I were you, given that you've already tried to reason with him face to face and had no success.We have an industrial estate with automated barriers.
It is not unusual to have opportunists try to tailgate cars entering or leaving site or for some people to even ask someone operating the barrier for the code.
I encourage all my tenants to ask someone who they don't know entering the site what they are doing.
In all fairness though, most of my tenants know each other.
If an opportunist were to enter your parking area and break into the cars, when they could easily have been prevented from doing so, wouldn't you be prepared to try to prevent that from happening?
It's just a case of everyone looking out for each other.
It is not unusual to have opportunists try to tailgate cars entering or leaving site or for some people to even ask someone operating the barrier for the code.
I encourage all my tenants to ask someone who they don't know entering the site what they are doing.
In all fairness though, most of my tenants know each other.
If an opportunist were to enter your parking area and break into the cars, when they could easily have been prevented from doing so, wouldn't you be prepared to try to prevent that from happening?
It's just a case of everyone looking out for each other.
sawm24 said:
stays up for a couple of minutes then closes.
I think this is where the problem is, how can he expect you to sit there for a few minutes? and is it really minutes, or 'minutes' (as in, longer than 20 seconds, since everyone has a really short attention span these days and seems to think that a short period of time is in fact longer).I would be on the caretaker's side here. Forget his side or your side though for a minute, you are renting a parking space in an apartment block. You only care that you have somewhere for your car to park that is fairly safe, the residents of the block care that their homes don't get broken into.
When I rented a second parking space in the block next to mine I used to wait every time to make sure no one got in who shouldn't be there in exactly the same way I would do it in my block to stop people getting into my flat. It only takes a couple of minutes.
You may not give a toss but it is for that very reason I am glad my current block does not allow spaces to be rented to non tenants.
When I rented a second parking space in the block next to mine I used to wait every time to make sure no one got in who shouldn't be there in exactly the same way I would do it in my block to stop people getting into my flat. It only takes a couple of minutes.
You may not give a toss but it is for that very reason I am glad my current block does not allow spaces to be rented to non tenants.
Davel said:
If an opportunist were to enter your parking area and break into the cars, when they could easily have been prevented from doing so, wouldn't you be prepared to try to prevent that from happening?
It's just a case of everyone looking out for each other.
Well, if it were me (and to be clear, it isn't) I'd not drive my car to somewhere to break into another. I'd walk. Which kind of negates the complaint really.It's just a case of everyone looking out for each other.
It'll be about people nicking 'locals' spaces, but there are ways and means to deal with that.
I also think you're being unreasonable OP, i live in a flat with communal parking and it pisses me off no end watching people drive in or out leaving the door to close itself rather than wait the 30 seconds or so it takes to close. I have had to challenge peope who were not supposod to be in the garage who just took the opportunity of walking in while the door was still open, cars and flats have been broken into because of this also. While it's not your job it is your responsibility to ensure that security is not comprimised by any of your actions.
John.
John.
roachcoach said:
Davel said:
If an opportunist were to enter your parking area and break into the cars, when they could easily have been prevented from doing so, wouldn't you be prepared to try to prevent that from happening?
It's just a case of everyone looking out for each other.
Well, if it were me (and to be clear, it isn't) I'd not drive my car to somewhere to break into another. I'd walk. Which kind of negates the complaint really.It's just a case of everyone looking out for each other.
It'll be about people nicking 'locals' spaces, but there are ways and means to deal with that.
If a stranger was seen walking onto our site, I'd ask where he was going and I'd hope my tenants would too.
Let's try and be reasonable here...
As a tenant, it's in your interest to ensure that your parking isn't abused - you'd be pretty pissed-off if you arrived and your space was taken??
As a tenant, you also want to reduce instances of allowing vandals or thieves access?
On that basis, sitting for a short time (I also doubt it's minutes) and/or challenging cars your don't recognise is in your interest - unless you have something else desperately pressing to do???
From the caretaker's PoV, he has a job to do which includes these things to. He also has NO right to tell you what to do and/or be abrupt or rude about it - his job is to be helpful (which includes reminding people of their responsbilities), not to order people around.
So there you go - you offer a bit of consideration for the problem and he learns a bit of civility - simples...
As a tenant, it's in your interest to ensure that your parking isn't abused - you'd be pretty pissed-off if you arrived and your space was taken??
As a tenant, you also want to reduce instances of allowing vandals or thieves access?
On that basis, sitting for a short time (I also doubt it's minutes) and/or challenging cars your don't recognise is in your interest - unless you have something else desperately pressing to do???
From the caretaker's PoV, he has a job to do which includes these things to. He also has NO right to tell you what to do and/or be abrupt or rude about it - his job is to be helpful (which includes reminding people of their responsbilities), not to order people around.
So there you go - you offer a bit of consideration for the problem and he learns a bit of civility - simples...
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