Isn't it just common sense..
Isn't it just common sense..
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unexpecteditem

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203 posts

192 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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That you face oncoming traffic when you're on foot in the absence of a pavement?

I mean, I'd rather face what will surely kill me if I don't get out the way.

The pillock out for a run (well, trot) with his kids must have some sort of special rear vision because that fking massive tractor was damn close to him.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

187 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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Well it depends really.

Depending on the curve in the road there are situations where it will be safer to be on the 'wrong' side of the road.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

201 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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Common sense is most uncommon, but I understand your angst.

turbopug

285 posts

183 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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I would rather face oncoming traffic. At least if you think a car is going to hit you, you might stand a chance of getting out of the way.

I would also say it's common sense but common sense is something that not everyone posesses. (sp)

unexpecteditem

Original Poster:

203 posts

192 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Well it depends really.

Depending on the curve in the road there are situations where it will be safer to be on the 'wrong' side of the road.
Nope

poing

8,743 posts

230 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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unexpecteditem said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Well it depends really.

Depending on the curve in the road there are situations where it will be safer to be on the 'wrong' side of the road.
Nope
Well if we are going to have such an in depth debate I'll happily counter your point with "Yep"

unexpecteditem

Original Poster:

203 posts

192 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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poing said:
unexpecteditem said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Well it depends really.

Depending on the curve in the road there are situations where it will be safer to be on the 'wrong' side of the road.
Nope
Well if we are going to have such an in depth debate I'll happily counter your point with "Yep"
I've got a bagful of nopes here. Lead on.

badlands1

845 posts

183 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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I have a huge Hell Yeah if you want it.

unexpecteditem

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203 posts

192 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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badlands1 said:
I have a huge Hell Yeah if you want it.
I'll see your Yeah and raise you You're an idiot.

Jasandjules

72,602 posts

259 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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Considering it's called "Common" Sense, it never ceases to amaze me how many people are without it.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

248 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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In my experience people who rant about 'common sense' refer to the ability of people to apparently being able to read their thoughts/gut-feeling and agree with everything they think and have the ability of hindsight before something happens e.g. why they vote Labour etc.

I think the term you want here is 'foolish' or some variation thereof wink

unexpecteditem

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Friday 5th August 2011
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Jasandjules said:
Considering it's called "Common" Sense, it never ceases to amaze me how many people are without it.
Yup, two people so far think it's more sensible to die oblivious to the fact they could have prevented it.

PurpleMoonlight

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187 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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unexpecteditem said:
Nope
It's not just about you seeing the car but the car seeing you. You also have the advantage of ears to hear a car from behind. The pedesrian needs to be in a position that gives them the best opportunity of not being hit, and that will sometimes be on the side of the road with moving vehicles behind them.

unexpecteditem

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Friday 5th August 2011
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PurpleMoonlight said:
It's not just about you seeing the car but the car seeing you. You also have the advantage of ears to hear a car from behind. The pedesrian needs to be in a position that gives them the best opportunity of not being hit, and that will sometimes be on the side of the road with moving vehicles behind them.
So you're agreeing with me - get out of the way if something, like a massive fking tractor, is coming towards you. Why didn't you say.

MartinQ

797 posts

211 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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There's a country lane nearby (link below) that I occasionally use to walk the dog. If I was walking on the right around a right hand bend the oncoming traffic tends to hug the hedgerow and as there's zero visibility I wouldn't stand a chance. In this situation I would walk on the left so I get a better view of oncoming traffic. There's also a semi-usable verge.

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=53.095187,-1.180494&a...

However, on left hand bends and straight roads I agree with the OP.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

187 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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unexpecteditem said:
So you're agreeing with me - get out of the way if something, like a massive fking tractor, is coming towards you. Why didn't you say.
Because that is not what you said.

You made the blanket statement that a pedesrian should always face traffic, which I disagree with.

unexpecteditem

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192 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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MartinQ said:
There's a country lane nearby (link below) that I occasionally use to walk the dog. If I was walking on the right around a right hand bend the oncoming traffic tends to hug the hedgerow and as there's zero visibility I wouldn't stand a chance. In this situation I would walk on the left so I get a better view of oncoming traffic. There's also a semi-usable verge.

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=53.095187,-1.180494&a...

However, on left hand bends and straight roads I agree with the OP.
Ok, based on the comments so far I revise my original comment - Is it not foolish to assume that faster moving vehicles are always able to avoid colliding with pedestrians and that the onus should be on the pedestrian to be proactive in their position on the road in order to maximise their safety?

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

248 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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unexpecteditem said:
badlands1 said:
unexpecteditem said:
poing said:
unexpecteditem said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Well it depends really.

Depending on the curve in the road there are situations where it will be safer to be on the 'wrong' side of the road.
Nope
Well if we are going to have such an in depth debate I'll happily counter your point with "Yep"
I've got a bagful of nopes here. Lead on.
I have a huge Hell Yeah if you want it.
I'll see your Yeah and raise you You're an idiot.
Actually the OP has clearly demonstrated my point - rants about 'common sense' yet is unable to explain his reasoning hehe


More seriously, what about a blind right hander? Would it not be better to be left side so you have a better view and oncoming cars are not surprised by you? And of course there might not be a place to jump to on the right hand side of the road?

Not that I'm saying Mr Pillock was not being a pillock of course wink

unexpecteditem

Original Poster:

203 posts

192 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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MarkRSi said:
unexpecteditem said:
badlands1 said:
unexpecteditem said:
poing said:
unexpecteditem said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Well it depends really.

Depending on the curve in the road there are situations where it will be safer to be on the 'wrong' side of the road.
Nope
Well if we are going to have such an in depth debate I'll happily counter your point with "Yep"
I've got a bagful of nopes here. Lead on.
I have a huge Hell Yeah if you want it.
I'll see your Yeah and raise you You're an idiot.
Actually the OP has clearly demonstrated my point - rants about 'common sense' yet is unable to explain his reasoning hehe


More seriously, what about a blind right hander? Would it not be better to be left side so you have a better view and oncoming cars are not surprised by you? And of course there might not be a place to jump to on the right hand side of the road?

Not that I'm saying Mr Pillock was not being a pillock of course wink
See above. Pillock.

badlands1

845 posts

183 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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unexpecteditem said:
I'll see your Yeah and raise you You're an idiot.
Silly keyboard warrior boy.