S Type Diesel - any good?
S Type Diesel - any good?
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urmm

Original Poster:

85 posts

222 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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Is it costly to run? Any niggles etc

Fleckers

2,880 posts

231 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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i love mine, had it over 2 years

what age / version you getting ?

mine is 1/2 way down this link

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...

niggels, none so far


alcovrugbyfan

351 posts

189 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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42mpg at 85 mph in a JAG! Plus bloody quick and sounds more like a V8 than a diesel when you boot it.

I dont own one but have had a play in my dads (pic below). He has the sport XS with the body kit and 18" mercury alloys, so it looks the part as well...




Edited by alcovrugbyfan on Saturday 6th August 09:03

dan tournay

493 posts

238 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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I've had mine for around 18 months and still absolutely love it. If you get one with the XS bodykit be aware it's a bit low at the front - I've got caught out in a couple of car parks with high kerbs. No other problems than a parking sensor that was replaced under warranty.







bigdods

7,175 posts

257 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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I'm looking at getting an S type soon, but the V8 petrol version. If you want to get the lowdown on S types then take a good read of this forum http://www.jaguarforum.co.uk/


fareaster

234 posts

209 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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In mine I got 26 mpg local driving, mid 30´s on the motorway. In comparison my current BMW 325D (larger engine, smaller car) gets 35 mpg local.

Fire99

9,865 posts

259 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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fareaster said:
BMW 325D (larger engine, smaller car)
The Jag is a 2.7????

Tea Pot One

1,869 posts

258 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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... and a 325d is actually a 3.0L Diesel ... just a detuned 330d not 2.5L as the model number implies ...

Fire99

9,865 posts

259 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Tea Pot One said:
... and a 325d is actually a 3.0L Diesel ... just a detuned 330d not 2.5L as the model number implies ...
oooooooh. smile

V88Dicky

7,370 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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My missus bought an almost identical S-type to BJ07 above, complete with the XS bodykit. There were actually two for sale at the Jag dealer, same colour, mileage and condition, but one was a petrol V8 and the other the 2.7d. She tried both, but was most impressed by the petrol. The fact that it was £2500 cheaper probably helped too!
Anyway, it's been fantastic in the 14 months since, only needing a rear park sensor replacing under warranty, and it's 30K service (£205).

Oh, and a quick calculation says the diesel version would have taken 4.5 years to re-coup the extra cost. wink

markmullen

15,877 posts

264 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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I had a diesel s type for a while over last winter, very good, not terribly economical (used to average about 33 overall) but nice wafty ride and did surprisingly well (if a little sideways) in the snow.

urmm

Original Poster:

85 posts

222 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Thanks for the replies

Its a 2005 54 plate with 87k on the clock. Its actually for my dad who has run an E39 5 series for 6 years. Had a quick look at it at the dealers and we both were impressed with the smoothness and lack of diesel clatter, not to mention the interior ambience. Didn't take it for a test drive yet or looked at the history, as my father was unsure about taking on a car with almost 90k. It looks well maintained and was shod with a good set of P Zero Assymetricos.

here is the ad

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...

urmm

Original Poster:

85 posts

222 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Just 2 things concern me.

The two turbos and associated pipework
The gearbox. ZF auto I presume like in the R version.

bigdods

7,175 posts

257 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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urmm said:
Just 2 things concern me.

The two turbos and associated pipework
The gearbox. ZF auto I presume like in the R version.
Quite a few horror stories out there about turbo failure on the diesels leading to very expensive repairs. Just another good reason for me to buy the v8 Instead smile

I *think* the gearbox issues were resolved around 2002/03 when they launched the facelift version with the nicer interior but cant be sure.

Stedman

7,469 posts

222 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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bigdods said:
Quite a few horror stories out there about turbo failure on the diesels leading to very expensive repairs. Just another good reason for me to buy the v8 Instead smile

I *think* the gearbox issues were resolved around 2002/03 when they launched the facelift version with the nicer interior but cant be sure.
Which means the diesel wouldn't have those associated problems smile

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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I have had mine for 2 years and taken it to a fairly high mileage - 140K ish. Since passing 100k it's needed

Two new turbos (under warranty before I had it)
New torque converter (120k)
Refurbished autobox mechatronic unit (electronics and solenoids/valves etc.)
Some bushes
About three exterior temp sensors

Engine is remarkably refined for a diesel but economy is completely unremarkable and it's not much fun to wring it's neck - just as it's getting interesting it runs out of revs and changes up. If you're planning to do big miles they don't seem to be robust enough to do it cheaply, and if you're not then you don't want a diesel anyway. Nice car, but my advice is avoid the diesel and get a V8 - it'll be cheaper to buy, nicer to drive and unless you're piling on the miles (and possibly even if you are) it'll work out cheaper to run.

Dave

eta - The later cars with a DPF appear to be quite capable of destroying their engines out of the blue due to contaminating the engine oil with diesel. Those I really, really would avoid.

Edited by dme123 on Saturday 6th August 18:29

daemon

40,169 posts

227 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Fire99 said:
Tea Pot One said:
... and a 325d is actually a 3.0L Diesel ... just a detuned 330d not 2.5L as the model number implies ...
oooooooh. smile
Until they replace it with a 2.0 twin turbo - which they are doing in the 5 series.

tali1

5,286 posts

231 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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markmullen said:
I had a diesel s type for a while over last winter, very good, not terribly economical (used to average about 33 overall) but nice wafty ride and did surprisingly well (if a little sideways) in the snow.
207bhp and 33mpg average ain't too bad is it?

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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tali1 said:
207bhp and 33mpg average ain't too bad is it?
Good for a petrol engine, pretty poor from a modern high tech diesel. It's also quite hard to get more than 40mpg even if you drive like a complete ponce and very easy to drag it down into the low/mid 20s around town. You can get quite close to the diesel figures from the V6 petrol.

Dave

tali1

5,286 posts

231 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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dme123 said:
tali1 said:
207bhp and 33mpg average ain't too bad is it?
Good for a petrol engine, pretty poor from a modern high tech diesel. It's also quite hard to get more than 40mpg even if you drive like a complete ponce and very easy to drag it down into the low/mid 20s around town. You can get quite close to the diesel figures from the V6 petrol.

Dave
I can well belive low/mid 20s around town
Bear in mind , i've seen quite a few complaints of 28mpg town for Rover 75cdti- a car with only 136bhp
99% of mine is short journeys -my 20 year average is 22.5mpg from....99,5bhp
frown
Of course that figure would be better if my rare longer jouneys were factored in