Sorry, boring but challenging what car for a desperate man..
Sorry, boring but challenging what car for a desperate man..
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wiliferus

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4,197 posts

219 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Sorry for another 'What Car' but i'm really in a bit of a situation so need to pick the brains of the PH massive to maybe highlight something I've not thought of.

Basic situation is my current car is fooked and I've taken a loss on it as a spares/repairs sale on Ebay. Money is very tight as have a 6 week old at home but obviously need to have wheels.

Criteria are -

Budget £1250 max (and thats if I prostitute the wife out, sell the dog, and get a paper round as a second job hehe )

Must have 3x3 point seatbelts across the back seat so the 3 nippers can 3 three side by side, aged 4 (so narrow booster seat), 2 larger seat, and 6 weeks.

Needs to be reasonably frugal, 35mpg and above preferably as i have a 65 mile a day motorway commute.

Ideally a reasonably lengthy MOT on it.

If possible 4 wheel drive as live on a hill so snowy times are not fun (although I'd live with a 2wd if it was the right car), and also wifey does horse riding and eventing so occasional towing ability would be very useful.

Not an MPV/People Carrier/Chav Wagon, I'd sooner chew my own nuts off than succumb to a people carrier.


So far I've looked at Disco Tdi's, which are on list but rightfully scared that in my budget I'd be buying a moneypit.
Jeep Grand Cherrys 2.5Tdi, as above and would struggle to get 35mpg i reckon?
Volvo V70's - Some in budget, is looking the favorite choice at the moment.

And there I'm out of idea's, so give me some choices, I'm open minded and happy to consider the left-field choices. Links to adverts would be particularly useful! I will be buying so I will update this thread with the end result + pics!

thumbup Cheers in advance

andy-xr

13,204 posts

225 months

gamefreaks

2,045 posts

208 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Volvo V70's: Unless thinking about a diesel, the petrols are thirsty. 35Mpg mixed driving probably won't happen.

Considered the V40 instead?

wiliferus

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219 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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gamefreaks said:
Volvo V70's: Unless thinking about a diesel, the petrols are thirsty. 35Mpg mixed driving probably won't happen.

Considered the V40 instead?
Yea, am thinking diesel, the 2.5l unit in the V70. It should nudge 35 mpg certainly on my long motorway run. I don't think the V40 is wide enough for the 3 in a row - think its got a centre lap belt too unless anybody can correct me?

wiliferus

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219 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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andy-xr said:
Would a 2.4t do 35 mpg? Can't see it, but if it does its a contender.

kambites

70,392 posts

242 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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I think Peugeot 406s have three three-point belts in the back and you should get a good diesel one within budget? Obviously not 4wd, though.

weezb

3,686 posts

185 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Not sure if this meets all requirements, maybe someone with more knowledge can assist?

SKODA OCTAVIA 1.8T ELEGANCE 4X4 TURBO 150BHP A/C 4WD
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2854624.htm

edit: and should be able to haggle down to price

kambites

70,392 posts

242 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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I don't think the octavia has a central 3-point belt, although I'm not certain.

205alive

6,087 posts

197 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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You need a Saab 9-3 TiD, pre-93 make over, like this: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3063792.htm - advertised at £1400.

At this sort of price point it could well 'feature' the cracked bulkhead issue. As long as it hasn't progressed too far, you won't even realise there's an issue until MOT time.

If the MOT catches it, it's probably a fail. The fix costs about £350-£400 at a specialist indy. Find one with 12 months MOT and then decide if you want fix it later on. An online search will show you how to find out if it's cracked.

Great economy on the motorway, a little less so around town but huge boot, clutches are known to be strong but will set you back £400 to replace. I had one and in hindsight I should have kept it and fixed the bulkhead issue I had on mine.

What happens is that the steering rack mounting points on the bulkhead wear due to a design fault, which can give rise to an occasional vagueness when changing direction under certain conditions, in my experience - it happened to me once during my 12 months of ownership on a roundabout ie, fairly low speed.

Really can't emphasize how good this car is in the snow. Make sure the tyres are good, and the heavy 2.2 TiD lump over them will give you amazing traction. And on mine the EGR valve needed a clean once but that was an easy DIY job. They are out there and can be fantastic value for money - and incidentally, the heater's like a furnace once it's warmed up.

Oh, and one other thing, the engine's are described as being agricultural until warmed up and under way - on the motorway they're no louder than most other diesels. Seats are really comfortable too.

ETA - not sure if it would be up to towing due to the turbo lag confused

wiliferus

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219 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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That's quite a good shout - I like the car Jewish Racing Gold too hehe. I don't know much about the VAG 1.8t's. Good lump?

weezb

3,686 posts

185 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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kambites said:
I don't think the octavia has a central 3-point belt, although I'm not certain.
That and the mpg I'm unsure of, it does say it has "3x3 point rear seat belts" in the blurb but saying it and having it are 2 very different things.

weezb

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185 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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wiliferus said:
That's quite a good shout - I like the car Jewish Racing Gold too hehe. I don't know much about the VAG 1.8t's. Good lump?
It's an excellent engine.

wiliferus

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Saturday 6th August 2011
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205alive said:
You need a Saab 9-3 TiD, pre-93 make over, like this: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3063792.htm - advertised at £1400.
On face value appears to be alot of car for the money. Yet another one for the list. I knew i could rely on the PH beards to help me out!

wiliferus

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Saturday 6th August 2011
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weezb said:
It's an excellent engine.
I seem to recall a bit of fuss on PH once upon a time about coil packs. Anything to worry about or mountain out of a molehill?

oldcynic

2,166 posts

182 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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kambites said:
I don't think the octavia has a central 3-point belt, although I'm not certain.
Not in 2001 AFAIK. I think the later ones did.

V70 diesel a good shout - I've been driving the slightly newer one for 7.5 years and have no interest in replacing it. However you may do well to accept 2WD and put some all-season tyres on (I like Quatrac 3's for our MPV but there are several to choose from) - this will reduce capital cost and maintenance, also inprove economy on the motorway.

seopher

301 posts

203 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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weezb said:
It's an excellent engine.
Aye, fitted in various forms to the Audi TT, A3, A4, Seat Leon, Ibiza, VW Golf, Passat, and so on, and so on.

Famously reliable, tuneable...

wiliferus

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Saturday 6th August 2011
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oldcynic said:
Not in 2001 AFAIK. I think the later ones did.

V70 diesel a good shout - I've been driving the slightly newer one for 7.5 years and have no interest in replacing it. However you may do well to accept 2WD and put some all-season tyres on (I like Quatrac 3's for our MPV but there are several to choose from) - this will reduce capital cost and maintenance, also inprove economy on the motorway.
Funny you should say that - The car that's just died was a 2wd and had no intention of changing for a 4x4. Had been doing research into winter tyres, so that would be quite an acceptable option.

weezb

3,686 posts

185 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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wiliferus said:
I seem to recall a bit of fuss on PH once upon a time about coil packs. Anything to worry about or mountain out of a molehill?
Yes coil packs but IIRC its quite a cheap fix, sensors and dump valves other "common" complaints, again don't think either wildly expensive but oil change every 10,000 miles and it's quite a solid unit.

philmots

4,660 posts

281 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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That Octavia seem like a good shout to me. biggrin

wiliferus

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Saturday 6th August 2011
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seopher said:
weezb said:
It's an excellent engine.
Aye, fitted in various forms to the Audi TT, A3, A4, Seat Leon, Ibiza, VW Golf, Passat, and so on, and so on.

Famously reliable, tuneable...
Will it return a genuine 35(ish) mpg? I would say 70% of its use will be on a motorway.