Does much go wrong with Jag V8 Auto's?
Does much go wrong with Jag V8 Auto's?
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NelsonR32

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1,777 posts

201 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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Probably about 20 years too early to be thinking about a car like this. But absolutely lovely! smile

http://pistonheads.com/sales/2957379.htm

lionrampant

577 posts

220 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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I'm sure a Jag nut will be along with more details soon, but there was the Nikasil engine liner problem that hit those V8s.

buzzer

3,621 posts

270 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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lionrampant said:
I'm sure a Jag nut will be along with more details soon, but there was the Nikasil engine liner problem that hit those V8s.
I looked long and hard at one of these.... Even went to see a few... Money pit, best avoided. Have a search in the jag section lots in there to put you off!

theironduke

6,995 posts

218 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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Sweet baby Jesus that looks like a billy bargain!!

alcovrugbyfan

351 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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check the history to see if the tensioners have been replaced, also it would probably have had an engine replacement in its early years for the Nikasil problems. Mind you by 125k any problems would have shown their face by now.

Other things check the foot wells are solid most of that age would have had a plate welded underneath, which is fine.

Overall I think as long as they have been looked after you should be ok. They are a lot of motor for the money and loads of them about so finding a good one shouldn't be too tough!

check out www.jaguarforum.co.uk its full of information and advice...

TheD

3,142 posts

229 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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buzzer said:
I looked long and hard at one of these.... Even went to see a few... Money pit, best avoided. Have a search in the jag section lots in there to put you off!
I'm actually getting fed up of self proclaimed experts putting down the Jag and the Nikasil engine. Yes in the early days there were problems and many had engine changes but if you find a Jag these days with a Nikasil engine, it isn't going to suffer from the problems back then and if anything the engines are now stronger. Just make sure that if you are going to buy one it is more important that the tensioners have been changed. I've had my Nikasil for 5 years now in a 98 XJR. Apart from servicing and brakes it has never ever put a foot wrong. I know others in the same boat as myself and they have also had trouble free motoring. Go for a test drive and check which questions you should ask the seller before you go. Just like buying any other car you are going to look at you would do your homework.

buzzer

3,621 posts

270 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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TheD said:
buzzer said:
I looked long and hard at one of these.... Even went to see a few... Money pit, best avoided. Have a search in the jag section lots in there to put you off!
I'm actually getting fed up of self proclaimed experts putting down the Jag and the Nikasil engine. Yes in the early days there were problems and many had engine changes but if you find a Jag these days with a Nikasil engine, it isn't going to suffer from the problems back then and if anything the engines are now stronger. Just make sure that if you are going to buy one it is more important that the tensioners have been changed. I've had my Nikasil for 5 years now in a 98 XJR. Apart from servicing and brakes it has never ever put a foot wrong. I know others in the same boat as myself and they have also had trouble free motoring. Go for a test drive and check which questions you should ask the seller before you go. Just like buying any other car you are going to look at you would do your homework.
Where did I mention nikasil? The cars I looked at had all had their engines changed so it wasn't an issue... But the failing gearboxes, electrical problems, rust... It's all well documented. Not exactly reliable are they!

black1

979 posts

227 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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had one for years never gone wrong never failed mot

dam good car

lot better then the e270 i had it went wrong every week !

MartyPubes

900 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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Ask yourself why an equivalent SL is so much more expensive.

Edit: I'm talking about the dated looking R129.

alcovrugbyfan

351 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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MartyPubes said:
Ask yourself why an equivalent SL is so much more expensive.
because it's German and all German stuff is overpriced. Mercs have their fair share of problems as well as any other make of car. But as with all things if you look after your tools they will look after you. So find any car that has been well looked after and it will run and run.

MartyPubes

900 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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alcovrugbyfan said:
because it's German and all German stuff is overpriced. Mercs have their fair share of problems as well as any other make of car. But as with all things if you look after your tools they will look after you. So find any car that has been well looked after and it will run and run.
Blah blah well maintained, no true Scotsman etc. I'm not suggesting Mercs don't have their own problems, and they're certainly less pretty than Jags, but Jaguar have a reputation for a reason. I've owned a few over the years, and they just don't 'feel' well engineered, and things do seem to go wrong with them far more regularly than the other cars I've bought.

alcovrugbyfan

351 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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hey I don't mind Jags having a reputation, the more people believe what they read from the few bad experiences some people have had means that the prices are cheap!
Not complaining about that at all lol! You can get a hell of a lot of car for not a lot of money.

MartyPubes

900 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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alcovrugbyfan said:
hey I don't mind Jags having a reputation, the more people believe what they read from the few bad experiences some people have had means that the prices are cheap!
Not complaining about that at all lol! You can get a hell of a lot of car for not a lot of money.
No questions about that, they are terrific value. However there's no point pretending that that XK isn't more likely than not going to throw some big bills at any potential purchaser.

theironduke

6,995 posts

218 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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MartyPubes said:
alcovrugbyfan said:
because it's German and all German stuff is overpriced. Mercs have their fair share of problems as well as any other make of car. But as with all things if you look after your tools they will look after you. So find any car that has been well looked after and it will run and run.
Blah blah well maintained, no true Scotsman etc. I'm not suggesting Mercs don't have their own problems, and they're certainly less pretty than Jags, but Jaguar have a reputation for a reason. I've owned a few over the years, and they just don't 'feel' well engineered, and things do seem to go wrong with them far more regularly than the other cars I've bought.
My XJS, granted a well looked after 1995 facelift felt as solid as my Dads E32 7 Series and the interior was far nicer than a lot of contmeporary German stuff i have been in. Oh and it NEVER missed a beat.

alcovrugbyfan

351 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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MartyPubes said:
No questions about that, they are terrific value. However there's no point pretending that that XK isn't more likely than not going to throw some big bills at any potential purchaser.
Maybe it will, maybe it wont but will it throw more bills than any other marque provided the relevant maintenance has been done? i.e tensioners, regular service etc etc....

FreeLitres

6,128 posts

207 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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lionrampant said:
I'm sure a Jag nut will be along with more details soon, but there was the Nikasil engine liner problem that hit those V8s.
I too believe this was an issue on the 4.0s. The 4.2 engines were ok though.

MartyPubes

900 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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alcovrugbyfan said:
Maybe it will, maybe it wont but will it throw more bills than any other marque provided the relevant maintenance has been done? i.e tensioners, regular service etc etc....
And there it is, the refuge of MG/old Alfa fans the world over - relevant maintenance. Quite how regular, extensive and costly that maintenance is never mentioned though...

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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The ZF 5 speed box in the non supercharged 4 litre Jags does cause problems, particularly if the fluid has never been changed. If the tensioners have been replaced the engine shouldn't give any trouble, but I've seen some terrible examples of structural rust on XKs. That does look like a bargain, keep £2k back for any work in the first year and you've still done well.

Dave

BrassMan

1,501 posts

219 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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Well, my ZS has been flawless (apart from a tendency to eat clutch cylinder mounting brackets).
Can't say the same for my manager's A4.
Or my friends 3-Series.
However my brothers Mondeo, 820, 416 (mine too), father's 405 and my Primera have also been fine.

A few threads for your enjoyment:
Here.

Remember, though, it's a £50-70K car and parts and servicing will reflect that

black1

979 posts

227 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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marty a few years ago my mate had a old v8 merc

he did not have it 5mins when the engine went bang
so he ripped the engine out and put a perkins engine in
it never went wrong again !

i think the old v8 is still sat in his front garden lol