Car Insurance - E-Sure, Elephant or Bell
Car Insurance - E-Sure, Elephant or Bell
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therealpigdog

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2,592 posts

227 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Three best quotes on that comparison site - anyone have any good/bad experiences with any of these which may be worth knowing before I take out the cover?


And by god has car insurance gone up!! Last year it cost me £680 to cover a £20k 3.2 Audi TT, this year it looks like £800 to cover a £4k 1.9tdi Audi A6!!!

kambites

71,482 posts

251 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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I've used Elephant for years and not had any problems with them.

weeredmetro

138 posts

199 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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I've been insured by Bell for the last 8 years, and have never had any problems. Mind you, I've no idea what they're like if you do have a bump since [touch wood] I've managed not to hit anything so far.

I like the fact that they have a UK call cantre (somewhere in Wales I think) which seems far better at understanding my Scottish accent than these call centres half a world away. They've always been very helpful when I've phoned them.

Try getting a quote directly from their own site - it might be cheaper than via a comparison one. then again, insurance costs seem to be a law unto themselves.

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

191 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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therealpigdog said:
Three best quotes on that comparison site - anyone have any good/bad experiences with any of these which may be worth knowing before I take out the cover?
Elephant and Bell are part of the same company, as is Admiral (might be worth checking them out). I've been with Elephant for a while: charges if you change address etc. but not too much(£20ish), never had to claim, when I rang to enquire about cancelling (selling the car) 5 months in they offered a little less than half of my money back (including fees).

Sometimes you get an Indian call centre, sometimes one in Wales, I used to think it depended on the time of day but now it seems to be random.

therealpigdog

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2,592 posts

227 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Thanks for the advice. Been with Admiral for a while, but they are about £200 off the mark, so can't really justify staying unless there are horror stories on these three.

CurvaParabolica

7,014 posts

214 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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I've been with Bell for about 5 or 6 years on their 10 months cover/1 yrs NCB plan. Had to make a claim 2 years ago when someone ran into me on a roundabout and they were very helpful, although the claim still isn't resolved (although that is more down to the other insurers more than anything else).

As said above, I like the fact they have UK call centres (used to have a Canadian centre as well) plus they have always given me the best price, although they are not immune to the usualy insurance company trick of bumping up your renewal for no good reason - easy enough to talk them back down again.

LuS1fer

43,517 posts

275 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Thing is that Admiral own Elephant and Bell.

have you tried the Co-op? They were good for me.

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

191 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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therealpigdog said:
Thanks for the advice. Been with Admiral for a while, but they are about £200 off the mark, so can't really justify staying unless there are horror stories on these three.
They will match any 'internal' quote from Elephant or Bell.

Gren

2,030 posts

282 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Swapped between Admiral and Bell for years as they were always the cheapest. They blew it this year - premium up from £430 to £580 and were only able to bring it down to £480 when challenged. Guy on the phone reckoned they'd lost loads of customers due to price.

Went to Direct Line for £430. They have never been in the running before but came in trumps this time. Axa were also cheap. 2 year old TTS if that helps.

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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therealpigdog said:
Thanks for the advice. Been with Admiral for a while, but they are about £200 off the mark, so can't really justify staying unless there are horror stories on these three.
Admiral, Elephant and Bell are run from the same office. Changing between them will make no practical difference, but if you want to stay with the same company then phone them up and they will match the quote.

isee

3,713 posts

213 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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1500 to cover a bmw m6, then
2000 to cover a lexus rx400h

FamilyDub

3,587 posts

195 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Gren said:
Swapped between Admiral and Bell for years as they were always the cheapest. They blew it this year - premium up from £430 to £580 and were only able to bring it down to £480 when challenged. Guy on the phone reckoned they'd lost loads of customers due to price.
^^ Re: price... my premium with Elephant went up 49% year-on-year (same car, address, etc) this year and I was offered an 8% discount (!) on the phone to stay with them, so they're definately more expensive than they used to be.

If Elephant/Bell/Admiral can't/won't compete on price, I really don't see the point in them existing. Ok they are polite, etc but they're hardly a "premium" insurer, are they?

Sgwilliams

231 posts

191 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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no point in them existing for your price maybe, however they still one of the few companies not making a loss with insurance.

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Sgwilliams said:
no point in them existing for your price maybe, however they still one of the few companies not making a loss with insurance.
Get back to work hehe

FamilyDub

3,587 posts

195 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Sgwilliams said:
no point in them existing for your price maybe, however they still one of the few companies not making a loss with insurance.
I never told you my price...

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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FamilyDub said:
^^ Re: price... my premium with Elephant went up 49% year-on-year (same car, address, etc) this year and I was offered an 8% discount (!) on the phone to stay with them, so they're definately more expensive than they used to be.

If Elephant/Bell/Admiral can't/won't compete on price, I really don't see the point in them existing. Ok they are polite, etc but they're hardly a "premium" insurer, are they?
Obviously don't forget that just because they aren't competative for your risk profile doesn't mean they aren't hugely competative for other profiles.

DanielJames

7,543 posts

198 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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CurvaParabolica said:
As said above, I like the fact they have UK call centres (used to have a Canadian centre as well) plus they have always given me the best price, although they are not immune to the usualy insurance company trick of bumping up your renewal for no good reason - easy enough to talk them back down again.
They still have the Canadian call centre, was on to them last week!

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Gren said:
Swapped between Admiral and Bell for years as they were always the cheapest. They blew it this year - premium up from £430 to £580 and were only able to bring it down to £480 when challenged. Guy on the phone reckoned they'd lost loads of customers due to price.

Went to Direct Line for £430. They have never been in the running before but came in trumps this time. Axa were also cheap. 2 year old TTS if that helps.
Subjective really, considering the guy on the phone works in a department that specifically deals in cancellations he is likely to be dealing with cancelled (sp?) policy on every other call, however it's a different story when you wander over to the new business department wink.

Edited by ZOLLAR on Monday 8th August 15:28

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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DanielJames said:
CurvaParabolica said:
As said above, I like the fact they have UK call centres (used to have a Canadian centre as well) plus they have always given me the best price, although they are not immune to the usualy insurance company trick of bumping up your renewal for no good reason - easy enough to talk them back down again.
They still have the Canadian call centre, was on to them last week!
Beat me too it, Canada deal with renewals and new business, india deal with customer service (basically anything inbetween setting up and new policy and renewals) wales deals with all aspect i.e. claims,renewals, new business etc.

LuS1fer

43,517 posts

275 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Come on, be fair, Admiral have a massive new building to be constructed on a lovely piece of prime city centre expensive greenery that will remove an open area and destroy the view - someone has to pay for it. Still, it will mean I can leave the current building without choking on cigarette smoke. wink