Mazda Diesel Engines .... what car.....
Mazda Diesel Engines .... what car.....
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Taita

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7,995 posts

233 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Looking at buying a Mazda 6 diesel for bimbling up and down the motorway.

Still fancy a decent BMW however I have 14k to spend, and it looks like they would be old and well specced or new and poverty frown

There is a newer 2.2D engine in the Mazda Sport spec but just how much better is it than the 2.0D that has been kicking around for a while.

Essentially, I'm weighing up Octy VRS, BMW 3 series (touring?), Mazda 6 Sport..... Am I missing anything?

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Yes I believe you're missing one of these.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3108280.htm

Subaru Legacy, not an MX5.

Taita

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7,995 posts

233 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Little bit out the ordinary, I like that.

What are the diesel boxers like? Running costs and mpg of a Legacy?

vrsmxtb

2,003 posts

186 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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I really like the sound of a Mazda 3 2.2D sport but reading about DPF problems is putting me off any newer diesel as my next car. Check out Japchat section,, someone has a detailed review of the 2.2D engine and DPF issues in a 3 over there. For value for money a well specced Octy VRS would be my choice.

Taita

Original Poster:

7,995 posts

233 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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vrsmxtb said:
I really like the sound of a Mazda 3 2.2D sport but reading about DPF problems is putting me off any newer diesel as my next car. Check out Japchat section,, someone has a detailed review of the 2.2D engine and DPF issues in a 3 over there. For value for money a well specced Octy VRS would be my choice.
Thanks matey, I'll head over there now and read that review smile.

Keep suggestions coming. Ideally located in the NW.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Taita said:
Little bit out the ordinary, I like that.

What are the diesel boxers like? Running costs and mpg of a Legacy?
Couldn't tell you. Autotrader may be able to, I've been in quite a few but not that year and they're very comfy and quiet as well if that's your thing.
Seem very decent cars.

JonnyFive

29,898 posts

219 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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2.2D is a lovely engine, the 185 certainly will get you to illegal speeds pretty quick and sits more than comfortably at motorway speeds.. MPG is 40+ and they're pretty fun for hooning in the lanes too.

Defintely the 2.2D over the 2.0D all day long.

DPF isn't a problem if you have it serviced correctly on time and driven properly. They don't like short journeys, so motorwaying etc is fine.

We've got plenty of customers who do big mileages in them, and even normal mileage too. My boss has one as his company car, only 10 miles a day mostly on country roads, no problem at all with DPF.. Though I do give the engine a good clean out out when I borrow it hehe

pmanson

13,388 posts

283 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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I've been looking at this one over the last few days (which i'm assuming is a 185)

Like you i'm looking for a motorway muncher on a limited budget.

Octavia VRS or Mazda 6 for me...

Taita

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7,995 posts

233 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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pmanson, that is lovely in black with the tinted windows. If it was closer I'd get it myself!

chrisispringles

893 posts

195 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Here you go, a couple of nice BMWs, in budget, not old, well specced and pretty low miles:

BMW 530d

BMW 325d

Taita

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7,995 posts

233 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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They are lovely! If I go down the BMW route I'd like to keep 1 - 1.5K as a fkup fund in case of any problems though (my fault for not mentioning it!)

I wonder what the insurance will be for a 23 year old - 4 NCB.

<goes to confused.com>

excel monkey

4,769 posts

257 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Taita said:
Still fancy a decent BMW however I have 14k to spend, and it looks like they would be old and well specced or new and poverty frown
Don't write off the 3-series. "Poverty spec" BMWs aren't as basic as they used to be.

What does a Mazda 6 Sport have, that a 320d SE lacks? Dual-zone climate, parking sensors, front fogs, cruise control are all standard. The only important thing I can think of that you're missing is leather seats.

£14k would get you a 57 or 08 reg Efficient Dynamics 320d SE touring with the start/stop 177bhp engine (and maybe optional leather seats).

frosted

3,549 posts

207 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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pmanson said:
I've been looking at this one over the last few days (which i'm assuming is a 185)

Like you i'm looking for a motorway muncher on a limited budget.

Octavia VRS or Mazda 6 for me...
You liar , you been eyeing up Felipe

Taita

Original Poster:

7,995 posts

233 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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excel monkey said:
Don't write off the 3-series. "Poverty spec" BMWs aren't as basic as they used to be.

What does a Mazda 6 Sport have, that a 320d SE lacks? Dual-zone climate, parking sensors, front fogs, cruise control are all standard. The only important thing I can think of that you're missing is leather seats.

£14k would get you a 57 or 08 reg Efficient Dynamics 320d SE touring with the start/stop 177bhp engine (and maybe optional leather seats).
Just been doing a bit of reading and you are right. They do come quite well loaded as standard.

Leather would be nice.

Hmmm, 900 quid to insure http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...

Not as bad as I was expecting, reckon I could get that down a fair bit too.

pmanson

13,388 posts

283 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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frosted said:
pmanson said:
I've been looking at this one over the last few days (which i'm assuming is a 185)

Like you i'm looking for a motorway muncher on a limited budget.

Octavia VRS or Mazda 6 for me...
You liar , you been eyeing up Felipe
Very exotic wink

stox

11 posts

187 months

Thursday 18th August 2011
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Ive had a Mazda 3 2.2D 185BHP since march, never had an issue with the DPF.
I do a mixture of short and long journeys, great car, great spec and effing quick.

vrsmxtb

2,003 posts

186 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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JonnyFive said:
2.2D is a lovely engine, the 185 certainly will get you to illegal speeds pretty quick and sits more than comfortably at motorway speeds.. MPG is 40+ and they're pretty fun for hooning in the lanes too.

Defintely the 2.2D over the 2.0D all day long.

DPF isn't a problem if you have it serviced correctly on time and driven properly. They don't like short journeys, so motorwaying etc is fine.

We've got plenty of customers who do big mileages in them, and even normal mileage too. My boss has one as his company car, only 10 miles a day mostly on country roads, no problem at all with DPF.. Though I do give the engine a good clean out out when I borrow it hehe
What extra servicing is required on a DPF? Is it a forced regen? And define short journeys - would regular commute of two 10 miles 70/30 split motorway/30 limit journeys be problematic?