e39 5-Series. Money pit?
e39 5-Series. Money pit?
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Synchromesh

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2,428 posts

183 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Seriously thinking about getting one of theses. It would have to be a straight-6 petrol but I only have a budget of £3k. But, with this in mind, would buying an e39 I be committing financial suicide. The petrol costs, tax, and (now minimal) depreciation I can stomach, but how expensive are they in terms of maintenance, consumables and likely repairs?

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

258 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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You can get a lot for that money - namely a late 530i sport which would be my choice.

They're can be quite efficient in terms of overall running costs, too.

stewjohnst

2,479 posts

178 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Had a couple of E39's and ran them both over the 100k mark, ok so I sold my 540 as the cats were on the way out and wouldn't have made another MOT but for everything else they were pretty reasonable.

Biggest risk of expense is tyres if you have the wider sport alloys or 18's and get unlucky with a puncture.

OEM parts for everything else (radiators, brake discs, etc) are pretty cheap to get hold of from euro car parts and the like and there are enough E39's out there to keep scrappers in business when you need something at a semi-bargain basement price like a new brake caliper, etc.

Do it, you'll love it smile

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

212 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Yeah they are a disaster, in the last year ive had to replace an alternator.

First thing that really went wrong on it in 11 years and 180,000 miles +.

120 quid for a second hand one fitted.

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

230 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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Frances The Mute said:
You can get a lot for that money - namely a late 530i sport which would be my choice.

They're can be quite efficient in terms of overall running costs, too.
Not for £3000 for a late one. A ropey 2000/2001 example maybe. A cheap E39 isn't cheap for long...

Op is better off buying a really nice late 528 for £2500. If it hasn't had a replacement cooling system it will need it soon. About £400 all in. They are fantastic cars but they are not cheap to own, and cost just shy of £100 to fill! That lasts me 350 miles in my 528. They are all old now and stuff like suspension will probably be knackered and that's another £500 fix. For the money they are brilliant cars and I utterly adore mine.





Edited by sparks_E39 on Wednesday 24th August 00:11

anonymous-user

71 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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sparks_E39 said:
Not for £3000 for a late one. A ropey 2000/2001 example maybe. A cheap E39 isn't cheap for long...

Op is better off buying a really nice late 528 for £2500. If it hasn't had a replacement cooling system it will need it soon. About £400 all in. They are fantastic cars but they are not cheap to own, and cost just shy of £100 to fill! That lasts me 350 miles in my 528. They are all old now and stuff like suspension will probably be knackered and that's another £500 fix. For the money they are brilliant cars and I utterly adore mine.





Edited by sparks_E39 on Wednesday 24th August 00:11
Well my 2000 528 cost me £800 and just went through it's service and MOT with no advisories and nothing major in the service. Whoever had it before seemed to care about it - it came with conti-sports and SP9000s.

It has 180,000miles on it - possibly everything had already broken and been replaced though...

aka_kerrly

12,492 posts

227 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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wsurfa said:
Well my 2000 528 cost me £800 and just went through it's service and MOT with no advisories and nothing major in the service. Whoever had it before seemed to care about it - it came with conti-sports and SP9000s.

It has 180,000miles on it - possibly everything had already broken and been replaced though...
Fair play i see the logic. Some of the best cars i've had have been the ones that people spent a fortune replacing plenty of expensive parts and then decide they want out due to fear of the next big thing.

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

230 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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aka_kerrly said:
wsurfa said:
Well my 2000 528 cost me £800 and just went through it's service and MOT with no advisories and nothing major in the service. Whoever had it before seemed to care about it - it came with conti-sports and SP9000s.

It has 180,000miles on it - possibly everything had already broken and been replaced though...
Fair play i see the logic. Some of the best cars i've had have been the ones that people spent a fortune replacing plenty of expensive parts and then decide they want out due to fear of the next big thing.
I've put £1700 into mine in 3 years. Not bad really but here us what I have replaced/fixed:
All suspension components
Anti roll bar links
Cam sensors
Radiator/cooling system
ABS sensor
Dead dashboard pixels (£80)
Ignition barrel
Breather pipe
Previous owner paid £3000 for reconditioned gearbox.

£800 is a bargain for an E39 in good nick, I wouldn't let mine go for less than a grand.


matt21

4,360 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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Great cars, just don't get hung up on mileage, these are designed to do 250k+. Get a well cared for example and it will soldier on for many a years. Mine was recently sold after 2yrs ownership and 185k 45k of which I piled on needing just an alternator

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

258 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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sparks_E39 said:
Frances The Mute said:
You can get a lot for that money - namely a late 530i sport which would be my choice.

They're can be quite efficient in terms of overall running costs, too.
Not for £3000 for a late one. A ropey 2000/2001 example maybe. A cheap E39 isn't cheap for long...

Edited by sparks_E39 on Wednesday 24th August 00:11
I've seen several 2002 cars with very decent specs for £3000 latetly as I've been considering one myself. Look hard enough and you'll find them.

V6Alfisti

3,313 posts

244 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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I think sourcing one that has been well looked after is the key (as with any car).

Otherwise they do seem to have cooling problems (e.g. radiators)
Rust is increasingly common
Niksasil issues on earlier ones (still crops up every so often)
Usual suspension/wear and tear items.


sam303

428 posts

212 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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As well as cooling systems, I believe autobox issues above 100k miles are to be expected as well. I had a 530i SE for about a month - got rid as I started to get transmission error messages on the dash and it would lurch like crazy into reverse gear at times. I had already replaced radiator and gear oil cooler.

You do see lots for sale having had a new or reconditioned box which a) supports the theory of failures and b) means that you can press ahead with a purchase of what is a fantastic car without too many worries.

HTH.

Synchromesh

Original Poster:

2,428 posts

183 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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It's alway disappointing to see a thread like this without a resolution, so I thought I'd give a little update. I went for a Volvo S60 T5 in the end. Read all about it here.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

263 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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As always, just because you can buy it for Fiesta money doesn't mean you can run it for Fiesta money. With a bit of luck you won't get big bills but it's daft to take on this kind of car without a financial reserve of £1,000+ available at any time.

bimmer528

526 posts

171 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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I had a 2000 528i sport for a year (June 2010-Aug 2011) had 128k which i took to 134k, Had to replace front tyres, have the ABS ECU re-manufactored (£160) and it over heated. I flushed the full coolant system through and got any air out the system, then filled up again with water. Sold it the next week to some Polish guy who lived 250 miles away, Never heard anything back from him so i pesume was ok. So total outlay in 14 months was £200 for tyres and £160 for the ECU

Silverdaz

83 posts

194 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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I have just sold my mint 530i sport, been in the family for 5 years. It was a facelift model with the 18 inch parras. Only costs was for general serving and tyres. Had it for sale on here and autotrader, first 2 weeks at 3 grand, no calls and next 2 weeks at 2750 with no calls. Ended up trading it in and getting 2500 for it, which I thought was ok. Totally regret selling it, but due to changing jobs and having a 600 mile a week commute I had no choice.cry

infradig

978 posts

224 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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I can only speak for the late 525d I had for two years and ran from 120,000 miles to 290'000 only big thing was a recon turbo which cost about £500 fitted. As long as you're sensible-i.e don't go anywhere near a BMW dealership,even the parts department, they cost next to nothing eg front and rear discs and pads £100 the lot, Heater hedgehog £25- ebay and the thousands of Eastern European e39 fans are your friends.
Only changed mine because it got written off and the two year old Merc I replaced it with is very close to going and me spending four months payments on a far better old BMW 530d Sport.

Nuclear Biscuit

375 posts

218 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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'02 540 here, probably been the most reliable car I owned to date. Radiators will fail at the top hose union though. Mine now has nearly 130k. I've done 60k of those over 4 and a bit years. I' m trying to justify changing to a 650 smile

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

230 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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infradig said:
I can only speak for the late 525d I had for two years and ran from 120,000 miles to 290'000 only big thing was a recon turbo which cost about £500 fitted. As long as you're sensible-i.e don't go anywhere near a BMW dealership,even the parts department, they cost next to nothing eg front and rear discs and pads £100 the lot, Heater hedgehog £25- ebay and the thousands of Eastern European e39 fans are your friends.
Only changed mine because it got written off and the two year old Merc I replaced it with is very close to going and me spending four months payments on a far better old BMW 530d Sport.
Where did you get discs and pads that cheap? And what make?

BlitzE34

284 posts

167 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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There is a risk of even a nice one becoming a money pit. Its not so robust like E34's.