Traders Policy Cost
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SambaS

Original Poster:

418 posts

208 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Anyone know an average cost of a Traders Insurance Policy? Thinking of starting up and this will be a necessity, also I own 4 cars that I use myself, all classic, and all under £200 a year fully comp. Wondering what my best bet would be

rallycross

13,675 posts

258 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Basic road risks policy £800 to £1600 depending on your situation, loads of exclusions, its not like regular car insurance and you may well have to prove you are a legitimite business (with trading accounts) when/if you make a claim.

If you have premisises/staff etc then much more cost but better level of cover than road risks.

warp9

1,632 posts

218 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Minimum premiums for fully comp are around £500 depending on the insurer, but then there are your specific risk factors to take into account, as rallycross states it's likely to be £800+. The other issue with a traders policy is that some insurers don't like classics, those that do will insure it as trade value, so you're not going to get agreed value or even market value on them. Try talking to a specialist broker like Tradesure on 0121 246-7070 or www.tradesure-quote.co.uk.

Edited by warp9 on Tuesday 6th September 16:29

trickywoo

13,454 posts

251 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Sounds way too low to me.

Isn't OP asking about insurance that lets punters out on test drives?

I'd have thought £10,000 would be nearer the mark.

warp9

1,632 posts

218 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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trickywoo said:
Sounds way too low to me.

Isn't OP asking about insurance that lets punters out on test drives?

I'd have thought £10,000 would be nearer the mark.
You obviously don't know anything about a motor trade policy. A fully comp £800ish motor trade policy will let your customer go on an accompanied test drive.

trickywoo

13,454 posts

251 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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warp9 said:
You obviously don't know anything about a motor trade policy. A fully comp £800ish motor trade policy will let your customer go on an accompanied test drive.
And let the trader drive any car?

Where do I sign up?

trickywoo

13,454 posts

251 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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warp9 said:
You obviously don't know anything about a motor trade policy. A fully comp £800ish motor trade policy will let your customer go on an accompanied test drive.
BTW if you have your company website on your profile it might pay to be a bit more civil in tone as I certainly won't be using your company.smile

Vixpy1

42,694 posts

285 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Speak to PH'er Insurance Jon, His company is Lockyers.

Policy will be from £700 to 5K depending on what you need.

confused_buyer

7,002 posts

202 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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trickywoo said:
BTW if you have your company website on your profile it might pay to be a bit more civil in tone as I certainly won't be using your company.smile
Maybe, but he was right, you don't know anything about trade policies, so why post in the first place? smile

Trade policies allow the holder to drive any car "their property or in their custody or control" - if you think about it how else could dealers jump in and out of different cars all the time? Garages also have policies to allow mechanics to test drive customer's cars, deliver them etc.

To sign up, you chuck in your current job and become a motor trader!

SambaS

Original Poster:

418 posts

208 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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I'd just like basic cover for any car I choose to be driving at the time, I don't intend using it for anything other than showing the Police if I get pulled in an otherwise "uninsured" car.

In the past I've had a fully comp policy that allows me to drive any car I don't own third party, even if it was uninsured and the Police disputed this on occasion but I had a letter from my insurance company backing that up.

I know new insurance laws have covered that loophole up somewhat by demanding an uninsured car be SORNed

SambaS

Original Poster:

418 posts

208 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Also thanks for the input, I'll budget £800 to £1000 I'm 24 that may not help, although no no claims cos of the classic policies my driving history and license is sound.

ADEuk

1,911 posts

257 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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QBE insurance, brokered through Adrian Flux... £650... third party on 'any motor vehicle the property of or in the custody or control of the Policyholder for Motor Trade purposes.'

GC8

19,910 posts

211 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Very slightly under £300 for me, after a fight every renewal, for third party only. Through an RSA owned broker.

confused_buyer

7,002 posts

202 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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SambaS said:
I'd just like basic cover for any car I choose to be driving at the time, I don't intend using it for anything other than showing the Police if I get pulled in an otherwise "uninsured" car.

In the past I've had a fully comp policy that allows me to drive any car I don't own third party, even if it was uninsured and the Police disputed this on occasion but I had a letter from my insurance company backing that up.

I know new insurance laws have covered that loophole up somewhat by demanding an uninsured car be SORNed
If you plan to drive any SORN's or untaxed cars you will also need trade plates. If you think you're going to be storing, moving, collecting, test driving or whatever uninsured and/or untaxed cars you need trade insurance plus trade plates. There is no other way to do it and if you try and do it without you'll get caught eventually so you may as well do it right from the start.

rufusgti

2,568 posts

213 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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confused_buyer said:
To sign up, you chuck in your current job and become a motor trader!
Not exactly. Two friends of mine have trade policy's. One is a tree surgeon with his own company. He just likes bikes and cars, has a van, swaps them fairly regularly. He finds it easyer with a trade policy. The other friend has no job but likes his toys. He has bikes and fast cars and just finds it easyer to use a traders policy. He also sticks my mates track car on so he doesnt have to have a policy running on it. This track car see's a fair amount of road action and even a commute a few times a week. I often wonder where the law lies with this. i think if there were ever an accident there would be some tricky questions needed answering?

What do you traders think.

Both these policys were under £1000. The one chap was prieviously paying £1600 on his evo but now has bikes cars, vans, allsorts.

rallycross

13,675 posts

258 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Just be aware that there are brokers out there who will be happy to sell you one of the cheap policies eg tradex or roadrunner but if and when you have to make a claim you will have to prove you are trading ( eg accounts or vat Reg) but if you cant then you may not get any payout.

Age is usually an exclusion below 25 on these policies.

paolow

3,258 posts

279 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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rufusgti said:
Not exactly. Two friends of mine have trade policy's. One is a tree surgeon with his own company. He just likes bikes and cars, has a van, swaps them fairly regularly. He finds it easyer with a trade policy. The other friend has no job but likes his toys. He has bikes and fast cars and just finds it easyer to use a traders policy. He also sticks my mates track car on so he doesnt have to have a policy running on it. This track car see's a fair amount of road action and even a commute a few times a week. I often wonder where the law lies with this. i think if there were ever an accident there would be some tricky questions needed answering?

What do you traders think.

Both these policys were under £1000. The one chap was prieviously paying £1600 on his evo but now has bikes cars, vans, allsorts.
I'm not a trader, but I think your mates sound awesome smile

SambaS

Original Poster:

418 posts

208 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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paolow said:
I'm not a trader, but I think your mates sound awesome smile
Agreed!

rufusgti

2,568 posts

213 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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SambaS said:
paolow said:
I'm not a trader, but I think your mates sound awesome smile
Agreed!
Without doubt. But legal??

insanojackson

5,998 posts

265 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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The amount of people i stop at work who have traders policys is huge, the amount who are actually traders is tiny.