R32 or Audi 3.2
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SBN

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173 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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I had a spin in a a6 3.2 the other day and the noise has got me hooked. Was there many differences between the Audi 3.2 range ( tt, a3, a4, a6) And the golf r32?

Unfortunately I cannot afford a mk5 r32 and am not keen on the mk4 mainly due to them finishing production around 2003, plus they are a lot more expensive than any of the Audi varients which are newer and have lesser miles. Is there any reason why?

Edited by SBN on Thursday 8th September 22:20

jackal

11,250 posts

303 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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ST220

nickdrinkwater

839 posts

211 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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Two different engine. The 3.2 in the A6 is a V6 layout, longitudinally mounted, whereas the Golf-sized cars use a VR6 engine mounted transversely. I think I'm right in saying the A4s and A6s have the V6 whilst the Golf, A3 and TT the VR6.

Anyone here driven both?

ManOpener

12,467 posts

190 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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nickdrinkwater said:
Two different engine. The 3.2 in the A6 is a V6 layout, longitudinally mounted, whereas the Golf-sized cars use a VR6 engine mounted transversely. I think I'm right in saying the A4s and A6s have the V6 whilst the Golf, A3 and TT the VR6.

Anyone here driven both?
Absolutely correct. I've driven the R32 and the earlier 2.8 Audi V6, but not the newer 3.2. Personally, I prefer the VR motor.

SBN

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173 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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Ok so I like the a3 3.2 for it's street sleeper looks compared to a r32 but are there any compromises?

EDLT

15,421 posts

227 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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SBN said:
Ok so I like the a3 3.2 for it's street sleeper looks compared to a r32 but are there any compromises?
Reviews said it was "dull" to drive, but then most journos measure fun based on how sideways they get every time they go to the shops (because they totally do that, they are just that good. Honest.)

aka_kerrly

12,493 posts

231 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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EDLT said:
SBN said:
Ok so I like the a3 3.2 for it's street sleeper looks compared to a r32 but are there any compromises?
Reviews said it was "dull" to drive, but then most journos measure fun based on how sideways they get every time they go to the shops (because they totally do that, they are just that good. Honest.)
I thought it was just PH that reckon R32s/Quattros are dullconfused

Evo included the mk4 R32 as their best buy for £10k in a recent article an Top Gear said the mk5 R32 was better than the 130i in every way and it was 2 seconds quicker around the TG track.

For me the Audi is a lot more of a sleeper an likely to be set up a lot more neutrally where as the mk4 R32 is set up to be more agile plus they look great in Pearl Blue

edition

985 posts

211 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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aka_kerrly said:
I thought it was just PH that reckon R32s/Quattros are dullconfused

Evo included the mk4 R32 as their best buy for £10k in a recent article an Top Gear said the mk5 R32 was better than the 130i in every way and it was 2 seconds quicker around the TG track.

For me the Audi is a lot more of a sleeper an likely to be set up a lot more neutrally where as the mk4 R32 is set up to be more agile plus they look great in Pearl Blue
I,ve had a A3 3.2 and now have a 130i. IMHO in terms of getting enjoyment out of a drive the BM walks all over it! On a wet day if you want to make progress without driving on the edge the Audi would be the more relaxing drive.

The 3.2 gets quite breathless as you increase the revs. whereas the 130 really likes the revs!

jamesson

3,594 posts

242 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Breathless! Hardly. Mine zips round the rev counter like a maniac.

OP - the A3 3.2 rides harshly but is a competent enough point and squirt machine. Bit nose heavy, but not enough to ruin things. I find it generally handles well enough although it doesn't have the balance of a BMW.

Driven sensibly it can be quite economical, driven quickly it can be pretty rapid indeed.

Four wheel drive in winter is a boon. Mine was unstoppable even on non winter tyres.

Pentoman

4,834 posts

284 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Had the 2.8 version of the Audi big v6 and it sounded good. Driven a few vr6s, some with induction/exhaust kits sound undoubtedly good, in a unique way. Plenty don't sound that great though. Drove mk2 TT with the 3.2 vr6 a couple of weeks ago and really didn't like the noise. Too loud without being sonorous. Almost artificial. That I didn't expect. Didn't feel fun or quick either. However it was only 20 minutes and in its defence I've always felt you need longer and some time driving the car alone to really judge a car.

Sir_Dave

1,505 posts

231 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Type '3.2 timing chain stretch' into google.

That will put you off ... wink

aldo56

80 posts

206 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Timing chain stretch is a myth!

Podie

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296 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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jackal said:
ST220
hehe

edition

985 posts

211 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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aldo56 said:
Timing chain stretch is a myth!
Is it??? go and ask on Audi-sport how many have had them done...... Maybe they were replaced by mistake....

jackal

11,250 posts

303 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Podie said:
jackal said:
ST220
hehe
You know it. biggrin

Better chassis, better handling, better balanced etc.. Save a ton of cash too !

anonymous-user

75 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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EDLT said:
SBN said:
Ok so I like the a3 3.2 for it's street sleeper looks compared to a r32 but are there any compromises?
Reviews said it was "dull" to drive, but then most journos measure fun based on how sideways they get every time they go to the shops (because they totally do that, they are just that good. Honest.)
I've driven one and they are a bit dull I'm afraid (mind you, I've driven an S3 and that wasn't exactly thrilling either).

SBN

Original Poster:

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173 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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St220 is not a bad shout and I have driven one but inmo the brakes weren't great however everything else about how it drives was good. I just think a Audi or be is a nicer place to be in the cabin.


Colonial

13,553 posts

226 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Sir_Dave said:
Type '3.2 timing chain stretch' into google.

That will put you off ... wink
All alfa's have rubbish electrics and rust blah blah blah

Podie

46,647 posts

296 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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SBN said:
St220 is not a bad shout and I have driven one but inmo the brakes weren't great however everything else about how it drives was good. I just think a Audi or be is a nicer place to be in the cabin.
Brakes are an easy fix. Calipers from a Focus ST, and disk upgrade to 330mm. Same brakes at the R32...

jackal

11,250 posts

303 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Podie said:
Same brakes at the R32...
LOL ... how ironic biggrin