RE: Auctions: H&H at the Imperial War Museum
RE: Auctions: H&H at the Imperial War Museum
Thursday 15th September 2011

Auctions: H&H at the Imperial War Museum

Silversixx picks out some race, rally and road gems to watch out for on 21st September



Are you tired of the lengthy parade of dazzling concepts and new models from Frankfurt? Do you long for something more attainable? If the answer is 'yes' then read on, if the answer is 'no' then...umm...read on anyway, because there is going to be some cool machinery up for grabs at the next H&H auction.

Lot number five is this 1985 Porsche 930 Turbo. Having won the Intermarque Championship in 1999 it's now been converted to a road/track day car with trick 935 suspension, a new MOT, a fresh 390bhp motor, and even a set of slicks. Surely such a machine will sail past its upper estimate of £28,000?


As a track day tool the Porsche is impressive, but it's arguably outdone by this 2005 Impreza 'Spec-C'. Not content with its original made-for-motorsport status, the first owner went to extremes with the modifications - and we're not talking about a big silencer and a pram-handle spoiler here. The full spec can be seen on the listing, but in short it has everything...and the kitchen sink (does that make it go faster, then? - Ed). Okay, so £28,000 - £32,000 is big money, but reputedly only 300 Spec Cs were built in the first place, and with only 10,300 miles on the clock might this be an investment?

More modestly priced than the Porker and the Scooby-Doo, but arguably a touch sexier, is this Maserati Ghibli. That it's an automatic may not be music to many keen drivers' ears, but the rest of the news appears to be very good: It seems to be in exceptional condition and boasts a comprehensive main dealer service record. Even at its upper estimate of £7000 it sounds like good value.


Speaking of value, we know from other auction results this year that if you want a Group B rally car you should be prepared to hand over around £100,000 for a Lancia Delta S4 and even more for a Ford RS200.The Metro 6R4 didn't enjoy quite the exposure as its contemporaries, but if this particular 6R4 goes for something like its estimate of £50,000 - £60,000 it'll be a good price to pay for arguably the most useable of the Group B cars.

As ever we can't cover every car at the auction (you can see the full list of lots here), but we'll look at just one more. Its true identity is yet to be confirmed, but this Rover SD1 Vitesse does appear to be one of the TWR-built cars that enjoyed touring car success until the advent of the Sierra RS Cosworth, and as such is estimated at £20,000 - £25,000. The 'Bastos' livery is probably incorrect for this particular car, but still...it looks the business doesn't it?



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thewheelman

Original Poster:

2,194 posts

193 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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That's a very low estimate for the Porsche, personally i'd have thought it'd go well over that. The Subaru leaves me cold, it maybe a limited edition, but i'd take the Porsche over it anyday. The 6R4 would be fun to own driving

My personal favourite however, would be this...

http://www.classic-auctions.com/Auctions/21-09-201...

& out of the less costly cars, i'd take this....

http://www.classic-auctions.com/Auctions/21-09-201...

Edited by thewheelman on Thursday 15th September 11:04

The Jolly Todger

2,744 posts

200 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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I love Ghiblis.


WMP

154 posts

219 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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The SD1 looks tasty, I think I have a Bastos liveried Scalextric car somewhere....

monthefish

20,467 posts

251 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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I would love to be a Billionaire and turn up at that auction....

I think I'd have the Airsteam motorhome and also the Merc 600 for starters.

WCZ

11,240 posts

214 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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that modified scooby seems insanely overpriced

davemac250

4,499 posts

225 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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That modified Scooby has a wish list of parts on it.

I dread to think what the build cost would be on it, it is a real blank cheque car.

The potetial bargain has to be the 930.

thewheelman

Original Poster:

2,194 posts

193 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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For those that partake in "dogging", i'd imagine this would be a dream vehicle for such activities....

http://www.classic-auctions.com/Auctions/21-09-201...

snorkel sucker

2,698 posts

223 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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"As a track day tool the Porsche is impressive, but it's outdone by this 2005 Impreza 'Spec-C'"

Behave!

Id take the Porsche any day of the week over the Subaru. The 911 even makes the Impreza seem expensive!

monthefish

20,467 posts

251 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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thewheelman said:
For those that partake in "dogging", i'd imagine this would be a dream vehicle for such activities....

http://www.classic-auctions.com/Auctions/21-09-201...
confused
Looks like the tinted windows might be a problem though.


(and no, that wasn't the purpose I had in mind when I suggested buying it....)

dave stew

1,502 posts

187 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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Got to love that SD1! I spectated on the 1985 Manx International Rally when Pond stuffed the Computervision SD1. Happy days. Russell Brookes won in the Manta 400, another one of my 1980s RWD obsessions...

Steamer

14,080 posts

233 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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This caught my eye - looking rather tasty in red.



There was one sat in dealers window near me for years (back around 1998) for the same price, havent they been £10 - £12K for along time?

I never really liked them, but I have to say they are growing on me as I mature (a bit like moss).

Fetchez la vache

5,850 posts

234 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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monthefish said:
thewheelman said:
For those that partake in "dogging", i'd imagine this would be a dream vehicle for such activities....

http://www.classic-auctions.com/Auctions/21-09-201...
confused
Looks like the tinted windows might be a problem though.

(and no, that wasn't the purpose I had in mind when I suggested buying it....)
At least the windscreen looks likely to stop seagulling whistle

thewheelman

Original Poster:

2,194 posts

193 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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Fetchez la vache said:
monthefish said:
thewheelman said:
For those that partake in "dogging", i'd imagine this would be a dream vehicle for such activities....

http://www.classic-auctions.com/Auctions/21-09-201...
confused
Looks like the tinted windows might be a problem though.

(and no, that wasn't the purpose I had in mind when I suggested buying it....)
At least the windscreen looks likely to stop seagulling whistle
^ rofl

Carnnoisseur

531 posts

174 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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Loving the Merc 600, awesome

soad

34,205 posts

196 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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930 Turbo Porker, yes please smile

monthefish

20,467 posts

251 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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Fetchez la vache said:
seagulling
confused


thewheelman

Original Poster:

2,194 posts

193 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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monthefish said:
Fetchez la vache said:
seagulling
confused
It took me a few seconds for the penny to drop......i think i guessed correctly, that or i have a sick mind. Just think, what could possibly look like bird crap on the windscreen in that particular situation....hurl

monthefish

20,467 posts

251 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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thewheelman said:
monthefish said:
Fetchez la vache said:
seagulling
confused
It took me a few seconds for the penny to drop......i think i guessed correctly, that or i have a sick mind. Just think, what could possibly look like bird crap on the windscreen in that particular situation....hurl
?

Anyway, back onto the cars, anyone know how much an XK120 'recreation' costs?

Kazlet

278 posts

191 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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snorkel sucker said:
"As a track day tool the Porsche is impressive, but it's outdone by this 2005 Impreza 'Spec-C'"

Behave!

Id take the Porsche any day of the week over the Subaru. The 911 even makes the Impreza seem expensive!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha roflroflroflroflrofl

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

266 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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"Lot number five is this 1985 Porsche 930 Turbo. Having won the Intermarque Championship in 1999 it's now been converted to a road/track day car with trick 935 suspension, a new MOT, a fresh 390bhp motor, and even a set of slicks. Surely such a machine will sail past its upper estimate of £28,000?"

Sounds a great deal of cash to me for a 25 year old car that's been extensively modified, even with that bit of pedigree attached.