1 car which shamed the company

[melvster]

Each manufacturer has produced a car which has shamed them.

My vote goes to Ferrari with the Mondial, i dont know anyone who thinks the Mondial is a looker, people only buy it because it is the cheapest way into a Ferrari.

[Matt UK]

I think the Laguna shamed Renault.

IMO Renault make some really nice hot hatches, know how to make a car handle, they led the way with the family MPV, do the 'cheap transport' thing well and their quality seems to be on the up. Basically, there is often a 'reason' to buy a Renault.

But the Laguna has just always been just ste and there is/was absolutely no reason at all to buy one over a Mondeo / Passat.

Edited by Matt UK on Saturday 17th September 15:03

[melvster]

Matt UK said:

I think the Laguna shamed Renault.

IMO Renault make some really nice hot hatches, know how to make a car handle, they led the way with the family MPV, so the 'cheap transport' thing well and their quaulity seems to be on the up. Basically,

But the Laguna has just always been just ste and there is/was absolutely no reason at all to buy one over a Mondeo / Passat.

That is a good nomination, the only nice Laguna was the one Plato raced on a sunday afternoon now and again.
It does make you think that Renault made a car as great as the Clio Williams and yet made a poor car like the Laguna.

[melvster]

anonymous said:

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Now that is a pig. IMO any Mondial is a dog, just has no style and you think the Mondial is a better looking car than a 599 or California, really??

[Mattyvole]

Mk5 Escort.

[melvster]

Mattyvole said:

Mk5 Escort.

Oh that is a shocker, especially after the Mark 2 Escort they made which was mega.

[Matt UK]

melvster said:

Oh that is a shocker, especially after the Mark 2 Escort they made which was mega.

And the wonderful Focus Mk1 that followed it.

[melvster]

Matt UK said:

And the wonderful Focus Mk1 that followed it.

I like the Focus RS MK1 but that is it.

[2slo]

Mattyvole said:

Mk5 Escort.

If you look closely at the no plate it looks like what has been blanked out originally said stbox

[melvster]

anonymous said:

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still know where near as ugly as this.

[Aizle]

The Ford Scorpio.

[6potdave]

anonymous said:

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Are you mad??

[melvster]

Aizle said:

The Ford Scorpio.

Oh god i was waiting for Mr Toad to come along

[Ozzie Osmond]

melvster said:

still know where near as ugly as this.

I'm sure no other company would ever be stupid enough to attempt a mid-engined 2+2 sportscar.

[melvster]

Ozzie Osmond said:

I'm sure no other company would ever be stupid enough to attempt a mid-engined 2+2 sportscar.

Lamborghini did with the Uracco? was that a 2+2?

[andrew]

Ozzie Osmond said:

melvster said:

still know where near as ugly as this.

I'm sure no other company would ever be stupid enough to attempt a mid-engined 2+2 sportscar.

it can be done elegantly

[ludicrous speed]

[900T-R]

Purely based on aesthetic values, I'd have a Mondial over a California, too. The latter looks like it was made by Peugeot

Whoever thought foisting folding metal roofs upon cars that should be a bit sporting is a good idea, needs a stern talking to anyway.

[melvster]

andrew said:

Ozzie Osmond said:

melvster said:

still know where near as ugly as this.

I'm sure no other company would ever be stupid enough to attempt a mid-engined 2+2 sportscar.

it can be done elegantly

I would rather that than a Mondial but truth be told, would not buy either.

[AndrewW-G]

melvster said:

Each manufacturer has produced a car which has shamed them.

My vote goes to Ferrari with the Mondial, i dont know anyone who thinks the Mondial is a looker, people only buy it because it is the cheapest way into a Ferrari.

Go and drive one back to back with a 3x8 of the same period . . . . then you will understand why the Mondial was a very good seller for Ferrari, without that knowledge of the cars, you’ll just sound like a rather thick Clarkson clone

Edited by AndrewW-G on Saturday 17th September 15:46