Geriatrics driving without headrests
Geriatrics driving without headrests
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Pferdestarke

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7,192 posts

208 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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Have you ever noticed them? Their necks and shoulders tower above the seat tops as they chug along in their old Escort or Micra, all wrapped up in beige coats with steamed up windows.

I cringe because if they were involved in an accident they wouldn't stand a chance.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

260 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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You've obviously never seen the standard seats on a MK1 Escort biggrin

LuS1fer

43,058 posts

266 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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Restricted mobility in the neck makes seeing behind painful and a chore so it's a question or risks i suppose. when I were a lad, cars didn't even have headrests and I've only died seven times since then...

Dogwatch

6,353 posts

243 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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Pferdestarke said:
I cringe because if they were involved in an accident they wouldn't stand a chance.
Well, they've lasted this far........

When they do have headrests it's often difficult to tell whether the front seats are occupied or not. The fact that the car is being driven (always 2 mph below the limit shown on the overreading speedo) suggests that at least one seat is - but which? confused

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

224 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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They never have them in TV programmes either, or at least they didn't used to.

They would be in the back of an expensive car in.....insert TV show, usually police based.....and they would have removed the headrests hehe

sebhaque

6,534 posts

202 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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It's interesting to see how headrests have come along - in my '82 Mini, my head is well above the headrests (they're more like neckrests). In the M3, I can't get the headrest low enough for me to sit above it. Then again, I'm a shortarse.

hidetheelephants

32,612 posts

214 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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Urban Sports said:
They never have them in TV programmes either, or at least they didn't used to.

They would be in the back of an expensive car in.....insert TV show, usually police based.....and they would have removed the headrests hehe
That's because if they don't the camera can't see the nascent Starsky and Hutch gurning as they pursue scumbags in TWOCed motors.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

267 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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Pferdestarke said:
I cringe because if they were involved in an accident they wouldn't stand a chance.
Whereas all the accident statistics say it's men aged 18-25 who have by far the most accidents. And you don't see many oldsters riding motorcycles which offer no protection at all.

The Nur

9,168 posts

206 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Pferdestarke said:
I cringe because if they were involved in an accident they wouldn't stand a chance.
Whereas all the accident statistics say it's men aged 18-25 who have by far the most accidents. And you don't see many oldsters riding motorcycles which offer no protection at all.
At what point has anybody said anything about the probability of them having an accident?

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

267 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Have you ever noticed them? Their necks and shoulders tower above the seat tops as they chug race along in their old Escort or Micra Caterham, Westfield, Beach Buggy, Radical, Kit Car.

I cringe because if they were involved in an accident they wouldn't stand a chance.
Happy now?


parapaul

2,828 posts

219 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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sebhaque said:
It's interesting to see how headrests have come along - in my '82 Mini, my head is well above the headrests (they're more like neckrests). In the M3, I can't get the headrest low enough for me to sit above it. Then again, I'm a shortarse.
Why would you want to sit above it?

sebhaque

6,534 posts

202 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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parapaul said:
Why would you want to sit above it?
I don't - was trying to see if it was possible. I suppose it is if you recline the backrest so much it turns into a deckchair, but that's not really the ideal driving position.

kambites

70,292 posts

242 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Many headrests are rubbish anyway. There's no way I can get the headrests in my wife's Punto to somewhere that they'll make the slightest bit of difference - they're far too far back and too low down. I suppose it's because things like NCAP don't involve a rear-ending whiplash type test, but the manufacturers just don't seem to want to try and get it right.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

172 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Yes. Old cars tend to have less safety features than new cars.

They have smaller headrest/neck support.
Fewer airbags and crumple zones too.

Old cars aren't as safe as new cars, and if they are involved in a crash the occupants will probably be more injured than if they were in a new car.

I would guess that anything without a third brakelight is probably quite dangerous in an accident. But after the third brakelights was introduced so were a lot of other safety features. (it's a bit of an arbitrary date, but it's as good as any other)

It's also the case that a lot of the older generation of cars are driven by older people who have had them since new and taken care of them.

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

178 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Pferdestarke said:
Have you ever noticed them? Their necks and shoulders tower above the seat tops as they chug along in their old Escort or Micra, all wrapped up in beige coats with steamed up windows.

I cringe because if they were involved in an accident they wouldn't stand a chance.
Yeah, it's amazing anyone who ever drove a car before the 1980's is still alive really isn't it? Everytime I drive my Series II Land Rover I'm killed in a horrible whiplash related accident.

Superhoop

4,839 posts

214 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Snowboy said:
Yes. Old cars tend to have less safety features than new cars.

They have smaller headrest/neck support.
Fewer airbags and crumple zones too.

Old cars aren't as safe as new cars, and if they are involved in a crash the occupants will probably be more injured than if they were in a new car.

I would guess that anything without a third brakelight is probably quite dangerous in an accident. But after the third brakelights was introduced so were a lot of other safety features. (it's a bit of an arbitrary date, but it's as good as any other)

It's also the case that a lot of the older generation of cars are driven by older people who have had them since new and taken care of them.
You're not wrong about newer cars being safer than old....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joMK1WZjP7g