Don't hog the middle lane
Don't hog the middle lane
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944fan

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4,962 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Drove from Milton Keynes to Yorkshire yesterday. All up the M1 the matrix signs either said "Don't hog the middle lane", or "Move to the left when not overtaking"

Finally someone trying to tackle those MLM fkers!

nelly1

5,660 posts

254 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Was it working though?

phil1987

55 posts

182 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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I've not seen any matrix signs near me saying that, but hopefully it'll be coming to a matrix sign near me soon!

Sam1990

398 posts

190 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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In my experience I can't help sitting in the middle lane these days. The left-hand lane is usually full of lorries with no more than 20-30 metres gap so it makes sense to sit in the middle lane

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Aside from the huge cost, what would the implications of a 4th lane be specifically for lorries? A lot of traffic clusters I see are caused by an overtaking lorry, effectively blocking 2 lanes of traffic and causing people to move into the fast lane, causing a tailback of cars. As above on the majority of motorways I drive the inside lane is chock full of lorries, effectively leaving 2 lanes of freely moving traffic rather than 3.

Edited by Sam1990 on Wednesday 5th October 21:10


Edited by Sam1990 on Wednesday 5th October 21:11

944fan

Original Poster:

4,962 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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nelly1 said:
Was it working though?
No it wasn't. furious

trashbat

6,215 posts

176 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Same on the M27 yesterday too - was going to post but forgot. The hog message and 'Keep Left Unless Overtaking'. Maybe someone reads PH?

nelly1

5,660 posts

254 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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944fan said:
nelly1 said:
Was it working though?
No it wasn't. furious
You're assuming the average MLM can read frown

essexplumber

7,756 posts

196 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Sam1990 said:
In my experience I can't help sitting in the middle lane these days. The left-hand lane is usually full of lorries with no more than 20-30 metres gap so it makes sense to sit in the middle lane

ETA:

Aside from the huge cost, what would the implications of a 4th lane be specifically for lorries? A lot of traffic clusters I see are caused by an overtaking lorry, effectively blocking 2 lanes of traffic and causing people to move into the fast lane, causing a tailback of cars. As above on the majority of motorways I drive the inside lane is chock full of lorries, effectively leaving 2 lanes of freely moving traffic rather than 3.

Edited by Sam1990 on Wednesday 5th October 21:10


Edited by Sam1990 on Wednesday 5th October 21:11
First and foremost there is no "Fast lane"! Its 70MPH in all of the lanes (apart from where variable speedlimits are in place).

I can see your thinking in terms of H/LGV specific lane 1 but what about vehicles entering and exiting the M way?

Ultimately lane hogging is down to a combination of lazyness and fear. Some drivers can't be arsed with the whole business of driving correctly and some IMO belive that the middle lane is the safest lane to be in (less chance off being rear ended by those big scary lorrys).

If correct lane disciplin were taught/enforced I belive it would reduce congestion on M ways dramatically. But how many commercial learner cars do we all see merrily lane hogging!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

278 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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944fan said:
Finally someone trying to tackle those MLM fkers!
Where've you been hiding? Those messages have been in use for years.

Discussed on here before. I recall one of our resident plod pulling someone for sitting in lane three on an empty motorway at 60mph. Said he moved over to lane three because the sign said Don't hog the middle lane...

essexplumber

7,756 posts

196 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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mybrainhurts said:
Where've you been hiding? Those messages have been in use for years.

Discussed on here before. I recall one of our resident plod pulling someone for sitting in lane three on an empty motorway at 60mph. Said he moved over to lane three because the sign said Don't hog the middle lane...
Should of made him lick the Armco clean for being so fking stupid!

MagicalTrevor

6,481 posts

252 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Sam1990 said:
In my experience I can't help sitting in the middle lane these days. The left-hand lane is usually full of lorries with no more than 20-30 metres gap so it makes sense to sit in the middle lane
Which of course is fine as you're overtaking the traffic in Lane 1.

anonymous-user

77 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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I wonder how long it will be before this thread is pervaded with middle lane hoggers trying to justify their selfish, tttish, dangerous antics. You know who you are!!

PompeyPaul

519 posts

206 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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If they can't hog the middle lane, they will just sit in the outside lane at 65mph!

perdu

4,885 posts

222 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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PP is depressingly right

frown

checkmate91

859 posts

196 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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Highways Agency Man is, effectively, saying that the Great British Public is stupid, a statement with which I generally agree. I wish there was some way of promoting a "keep left and drive sensibly (you idiots)" campaign but that would have to involve car drivers as well as lorry drivers, which simply wont work.

I've spent over 30 years avoiding the temptation of overtaking on the nearside but in the past few months have felt my resolve weaken to the point of actually contemplating it!

Tonsko

6,299 posts

238 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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Just as an aside, shouldn't it strictly be L2M? paperbag

PoleDriver

29,261 posts

217 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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I've noticed an increase in the use of flashing headlights to get people to move over. This was common 35 years ago but I don't recall seeing it for many years until recently!

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

264 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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checkmate91 said:
Highways Agency Man is, effectively, saying that the Great British Public is stupid, a statement with which I generally agree. I wish there was some way of promoting a "keep left and drive sensibly (you idiots)" campaign but that would have to involve car drivers as well as lorry drivers, which simply wont work.

I've spent over 30 years avoiding the temptation of overtaking on the nearside but in the past few months have felt my resolve weaken to the point of actually contemplating it!
Give in to it. It feels wonderful.

mightymouse

1,438 posts

251 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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PoleDriver said:
I've noticed an increase in the use of flashing headlights to get people to move over. This was common 35 years ago but I don't recall seeing it for many years until recently!
Still doesn't redcard work all the time.

God know's what it's going to be like when we do have a legal 80 limit.

VR6 Turbo

2,686 posts

177 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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They need to do a TV ad campaign. run it during Coronation street and Emerdale. I think I am right in saying (I am far to young to have seen one) that when the motorway was first introduced there were public service announcements on TV on how to drive correctly this included keeping left.

Run these again please shiny faced man.

VR