Insurance for 17 yr - way round ?
Insurance for 17 yr - way round ?
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shipley

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266 posts

276 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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My son will be 17 in a few months and is desperate to start driving. We're not keen on him having a scooter (although I've always fancied one smile ) as we'd like him to see his 18th birthday.

A colleague suggested buying a shed of a scooter and insuring it for a couple of years under my sons name, thereby building up a NCB for him, in advance of me buying him his first car.

Anyone know if this would be worth the effort ?



Edited by shipley on Saturday 8th October 16:37

Shaw Tarse

31,820 posts

224 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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There was a similar thread, I think there was some question as to whether NCB can be transferred from a motorcycle to a car?

mattmoxon

5,026 posts

239 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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Shaw Tarse said:
There was a similar thread, I think there was some question as to whether NCB can be transferred from a motorcycle to a car?
My brother did 6 years or so ago with 2yrs NCB from his scooter, but I don't know if they accept it now best to check if NCB is a general thing or separate for vehicle classes!!

shipley

Original Poster:

266 posts

276 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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hmm..good point, maybe I should just buy a shed and hide it from him !


snuffle

1,587 posts

203 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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Just let him have a scooter, as well as possibly earning NCB, your son may also learn some valuable road sense.
Yes I know he may lose a leg/arm/die. delete as necessary, but that can just as easily happen in a car.


Sits back and waits for daily mail readers to start the "bikes kill riders and their pets" comments

ShampooEfficient

4,278 posts

232 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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snuffle said:
Just let him have a scooter, as well as possibly earning NCB, your son may also learn some valuable road sense.
Yes I know he may lose a leg/arm/die. delete as necessary, but that can just as easily happen in a car.


Sits back and waits for daily mail readers to start the "bikes kill riders and their pets" comments
Agreed. Learning to read traffic is more important than the insurance saving.

gsfrontera

516 posts

221 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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Just tried to transfer 6 years ncb from a bike to a car. Couldnt find an insurer anywhere that would accept it.

killsta

1,829 posts

249 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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snuffle said:
Just let him have a scooter, as well as possibly earning NCB, your son may also learn some valuable road sense.
Yes I know he may lose a leg/arm/die. delete as necessary, but that can just as easily happen in a car.


Sits back and waits for daily mail readers to start the "bikes kill riders and their pets" comments
Not sure I agree with that..... hehe

Benbay001

5,830 posts

178 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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Admiral gave a very small discount to my car insurance due to bike noclaims, so little it was really worthless.
Cheap car insurance is avaliable, you just have to be patient.

PimpmyHotwheels

365 posts

201 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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18 here, on the co op young driver insurance scheme (GPS box installed) and it reduces the preimum down by a lot (£1000's)for me and it isn't so bad as long as you aren't driving a lot at unsociable hours and going over the speed limit or taking corners too quickly.

It works on a points system and if your score is high enough after 90 months they refund you 11% of your premium.


Act Daft

191 posts

177 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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Try the co-op insurance who will fit a tracking device which reduces the insurance by a vast amount,
My 17yr old son has saved over £3000 pound on fully comp insurance and recieves cash back sums quarterly so long as he drives responsibly, basically doesnt speed, so I can also get piece of mind from this and hes building his NCB rather than being a named driver on someone elses policy.

DHE

4,634 posts

211 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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PimpmyHotwheels said:
It works on a points system and if your score is high enough after 90 months they refund you 11% of your premium.
Are you sure its 90 months? 7.5 years is a long time to wait for a refund.

OP, check out Collingwood Insurance services, my lad is 17 on Monday and I've spent the morning looking at quotes, they have come out the cheapest so far, by a long way.


Edited by DHE on Saturday 8th October 18:59

PimpmyHotwheels

365 posts

201 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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Haha my apologises, 90 day's .. banghead

mr0709

41 posts

208 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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I did this exact same thing at 16 got a 50cc and a 125 at 17 got knocked off (know that doesnt help) but transferred no claims as wasnt my fault... Did it with direct line and they are the reason why i have 5 yrs no claims and have only been driving for 4 years.

Petrolhead95

7,044 posts

175 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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I'm 17 in a couple of months but I have a 125 because a car is just too damn expensive. My mum doesn't want me to have a motorbike but the cost of a car for a 17 year old is just nuts!

PH95 smile

C3BER

4,714 posts

244 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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I'm looking into this for my lad who turns 17 soon. Any help would save me hours looking into the best deals.

shipley

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266 posts

276 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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Thanks all - some great advice and pointers.

Looks like its a clapped out Micra for him...I'll also buy him a false beard and glasses so no one recognises him !!


chrisispringles

893 posts

186 months

Saturday 8th October 2011
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shipley said:
Thanks all - some great advice and pointers.

Looks like its a clapped out Micra for him...I'll also buy him a false beard and glasses so no one recognises him !!
I wouldn't even count on that being affordable, expect to pay somewhere north of £2.5k for that. If you relly want him to be driving and can afford insurance then look at even older hatches like Mk1/2 Fiestas or breadvan Polos etc... They seem to be the only cars that a 17 year old can insure for less than £2k. frown

Big News

1,937 posts

200 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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PimpmyHotwheels said:
18 here, on the co op young driver insurance scheme (GPS box installed) and it reduces the preimum down by a lot (£1000's)for me and it isn't so bad as long as you aren't driving a lot at unsociable hours and going over the speed limit or taking corners too quickly.

It works on a points system and if your score is high enough after 90 months they refund you 11% of your premium.
Blimey, I just ran a quote through their system, and despite their best deal being £1200 more expensive than what Admiral charge me at the moment (19 year old, 1.8 Ford Focus) I can alter the premium by over £300 by changing my answer to the (ludicrous) question 'What time do you usually arrive for meetings' from '10 minutes early' to 'Late'.

Oh, and one of the ways it measures your safe driving is through cornering force. So don't bother fitting some Michelins, just go with Ling Longs and drive everywhere at 11/10ths in the rain and you'll be fine. And even think about driving on all those empty roads after 11pm. Admitting that I drove after their curfew 'weekly' added £200 to my premium.

I think I'll stick with the man-what-commands-navies, thanks!

paulrussell

2,289 posts

182 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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I'd recomend getting a 125cc moped as that'll teach him roadcraft which I think is more improtant than building up NCB.