How much toll does a track day take on your car?
How much toll does a track day take on your car?
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raf_gti

Original Poster:

4,201 posts

227 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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I've a 2007 MX-5 which I will happily hoon around in yet when it comes to taking it on track I'm a little bit on the cautious side.

How much will it take out of a car?

Brakes, tyres and oil are the major items which spring to mind but is there anything else which would likely require replacing sooner?

Should I just MTFU and take advantage of the fact that Cadwell and Blyton are less than 15miles away?

RemainAllHoof

79,175 posts

303 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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All that, plus petrol, and also the general mechanicals depending on how fierce you are with it.

Just do it, anyway. If you've never been on a trackday and love driving, you won't want to stop. But go easy towards the end of the day as you'll be tired from driving and more likely to make an expensive mistake. And make sure you're insured. Sure, if you bounce off Armco and damage a bumper, you can afford that, but what if you take an F458 with you?

Benbay001

5,830 posts

178 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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RemainAllHoof said:
but what if you take an F458 with you?
I thought everyone signed a waiver to say that any damage taken is your problem.
Anyway, i will paying attention to this thread.

GSP

1,965 posts

225 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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I know someone that tracks a company 330d... At 15k it was a good way through its second set of tyres, need new discs and when serviced recently the technician said the steering rack was in the condition of 100k miles car and has since been replaced too.

RemainAllHoof

79,175 posts

303 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Benbay001 said:
I thought everyone signed a waiver to say that any damage taken is your problem.
Anyway, i will paying attention to this thread.
I don't remember! All I do remember is taking out proper insurance for the day.

Hasbeen

2,073 posts

242 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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When I was racing my Morgan +4, I found 120 miles out of a set of Pirellis was a bit expensive, but no where as much hassle as having to change big end bearings between practice & racing at Bathurst.

raf_gti

Original Poster:

4,201 posts

227 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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GSP said:
I know someone that tracks a company 330d... At 15k it was a good way through its second set of tyres, need new discs and when serviced recently the technician said the steering rack was in the condition of 100k miles car and has since been replaced too.
I'm not sure why a steering rack would show excessive wear?

My 25 miles, over the Wolds drive to work can only be harder on components than a nice smooth circuit?

Scootersp

3,875 posts

209 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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If you are keeping the brakes and tyres as standard then as others have said they will limit your ability to stay out on track. I would suggest an out lap and then 2-4 laps (depending on lap length) and come in - then repeat. Don't be desperate to get your moneys worth and stay out longer/as long as possible, short spells will help you concentrate, the frequent stops allow you to rest and revaluate your technique and most importantly for the cars vital bits to cool.

Heat build up is your cars enemy in terms of how much toll it will take on it.


wackojacko

8,581 posts

211 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Not much at all, obviously it increases wear on consumables but hey ho.

In terms of damage, if someone takes you out they aren't obliged to pay you anything.... you're out there at your own risk ( unless you take out track day cover which gets awefully expensive).

Scootersp

3,875 posts

209 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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The day I first went was a beginners day, I was in my pride and Joy Mkiv Supra at the time, there was a 911 turbo, a Noble and a few caterham types but also a group of suzuki swifts/novas from what looked like a recovery companies Christmas do/day out!!

I just positioned myself appropriately! if you catch up to folk sometimes its better to back right off until you find some space to go for it more safely......this will also help your brakes and tyres to cool.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

245 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Most track surfaces are pretty smooth anyway, my theory is most cars take more hammer on public roads on bushes, suspension etc, ok brakes and consumables will wear on a track day, but speed humps etc put massive loads through a heavy car.

Matt UK

18,080 posts

221 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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I drive a circuit as I would a one-way b road.

Keep it smooth, use WOT when avaiable, don't drive beyond what I can see.

I'm not too heavy on brakes - 'lap times' don't interest me much so I'll start braking earlier than the car is capable of and hence have never suffered from hot brakes. I do like to provoke some slip angles on exit though, so tyres tend to get hot and become the limiting factor when they start to feel 'greasy'. Which is fine, just means it's time for a cool down lap and then a wander round the pits to say hello and chat to people with interesting cars whilst letting me and the car cool down.

If I'm honest, a track day takes more toll on me than the car - even my Mk1 MX5 could stay out on track longer than me. I'm sure the Caterham mutters 'MTFU' under it's breath when it realises I want to go back to the pits again...

SuperHangOn

3,486 posts

174 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Another option is to buy something like an old E30, strip it out and use purely for track days.

raf_gti

Original Poster:

4,201 posts

227 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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SuperHangOn said:
Another option is to buy something like an old E30, strip it out and use purely for track days.
Would love to but when you start to factor in tax/mot/insurance that becomes a rather more expensive proposition.

It's a shame you can't buy a package of four laps for £20 or so, save having to book a full day but which would give you the experience of what it is like.

YorkshirePudding

2,141 posts

206 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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raf_gti said:
Should I just MTFU and take advantage of the fact that Cadwell and Blyton are less than 15miles away?
yes

Start off with a novice event first and remember it's not a race.

Matt UK

18,080 posts

221 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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raf_gti said:
Would love to but when you start to factor in tax/mot/insurance that becomes a rather more expensive proposition.

It's a shame you can't buy a package of four laps for £20 or so, save having to book a full day but which would give you the experience of what it is like.
I'm sure Brands did offer that over the summer, you could buy 20 min sessions. Plus there are often evening and half day events as well.

raf_gti

Original Poster:

4,201 posts

227 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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YorkshirePudding said:
raf_gti said:
Should I just MTFU and take advantage of the fact that Cadwell and Blyton are less than 15miles away?
yes

Start off with a novice event first and remember it's not a race.
What?

How else I'm I to prove I'm the fastest driver? wink



YorkshirePudding

2,141 posts

206 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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raf_gti said:
It's a shame you can't buy a package of four laps for £20 or so, save having to book a full day but which would give you the experience of what it is like.
MSV do,

http://www.clubmsv.com/car-home/novice-drivers-are...

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

219 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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MX5's are very strong cars, you'll be able to thrash it all day on track and have no issues. All I'd recommend is a set of decent brake pads.

Classic Grad 98

25,982 posts

181 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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If you're doing regular track days, I'd step up the checking/servicing regime and use quality oils. Be prepared also to replace tyres/brakes more regularly and I'd also adhere religiously to regular brake fluid changes.
In my experience the only thing that might give it away is tell-tale gravel rash and rubber marks.
So yeah MTFU, keep on top of the maintenance and make sure your tyre pressures are adjusted for track use and then again before you drive home.