What happens if I do this?
What happens if I do this?
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SD1992

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7,278 posts

179 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Unfortunately, I am having to take my car off the road for a while as I am simply not using it and there is no point in paying extortionate insurance premiums for it to just sit there doing nothing.

I have declared it SORN by phone, and I am going to cash in the tax disc later on today.

My problem comes with insurance. Currently, I have frozen the policy so that I basically take a few months off and can resume the policy at any time.

I wanted to cancel it, but they want an administration charge of £60! yikes

My question is, can I just cancel the direct debit and deny them all access to my bank account to effectively cancel the policy without paying an administration charge (which is taking the piss a bit)?

It sounds like a good idea in theory, but I don't want to get blacklisted, or done for non payment or anything like that.

Has anyone on here done the same thing? All advice would be much appreciated smile

Pints

18,448 posts

215 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Does your car not have to stay insured, even though it's SORNed? (Recent change in law.)

SD1992

Original Poster:

7,278 posts

179 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Pints said:
Does your car not have to stay insured, even though it's SORNed? (Recent change in law.)
Wait... what?

I thought the rule was, if it wasn't insured it had to be SORNed?

Pints

18,448 posts

215 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Maybe I'm getting things confused. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to tell me to stand in the corner if I'm wrong.


66comanche

2,369 posts

180 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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SD1992 said:
Pints said:
Does your car not have to stay insured, even though it's SORNed? (Recent change in law.)
Wait... what?

I thought the rule was, if it wasn't insured it had to be SORNed?
Yeah, methinks Pints is getting a little mixed up!

Problem is the admin charge will be there in the T&C's that you signed up to, so if you just cancel the DD I expect they will come after you for it via whichever channels. Would also be bad as they will cancel your insurance which you would then have to admit to future insurers.

Spanna

3,736 posts

197 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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SD1992 said:
Wait... what?

I thought the rule was, if it wasn't insured it had to be SORNed?
You've got it. If you have a vehicle is taxed it HAS to be insured or you receive a Failure to Insure FPN, £50 rising to £100 if after a certain period. Once the car is SORN'd insurance is no longer mandatory.

SS2.

14,671 posts

259 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Taxed and insured - no problem.
No insurance and / or no tax - vehicle must be kept off road and SORN declaration made.

SD1992

Original Poster:

7,278 posts

179 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Ok I think I understand this now...

Since I SORNed it before doing anything, I am ok, right?





(I lied, this makes no sense frown )

Pints

18,448 posts

215 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Well there you have it. I'm tired and half asleep. You'll forgive me. smile

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

216 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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So if my car is SORNed, I call up the insurance company, start a policy and then go tax it and thats grand. You need to show the car is insured before it is taxed anyway surely?

So the only difference these new rules are if the car is taxed and your insurance runs out you need to SORN it then and there and then re-insure it so they make money of you handing in your old cash disk and paying for a new one?

SD1992

Original Poster:

7,278 posts

179 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Thanks guys, glad I won't be getting a massive bill!

Back to the OP, is just cancelling all direct debits a bad plan?

marshalla

15,902 posts

222 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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SD1992 said:
Thanks guys, glad I won't be getting a massive bill!

Back to the OP, is just cancelling all direct debits a bad plan?
Yes - you have a contract with the insurer which includes their admin. charge if you want to terminate early. Cancelling the DD could/would put you in breach of contract.

Petemate

1,674 posts

212 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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The admin charge sounds a bit harsh to me. When I had our replica Model A Roadster, i was insured with Classicline and when I took it off the road, I converted to 'laid-up' insurance, which was only annually £75. I did not get charged any admin fee whatever; not only that, but as the amendment was made before the end of the policy year, they ensured that my subsequent renewal did not incur me any extra expense. This all ended up as if I had renewed as 'laid-up' on the renewal date. It must have been a headache for them, but they were very helpful. Your company sounds like a harsh bunch. :thumbdown:

lionrampant

577 posts

211 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Cancelling the DD won't work. The insurance company will still come after you for it.

tonys

1,080 posts

244 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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It's bound to be in the terms you agreed to. Fairly std. practice now, although amounts vary.
In short, yes they can enforce it and collect, one way or the other.

Have you asked if they'll provide a 'laid-up' policy, ie maybe just fire/theft but excluding on-road use. Some used to. However, there still might be an admin. charge, although might be less than that quoted for cancellation.

Petemate

1,674 posts

212 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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lionrampant said:
Cancelling the DD won't work. The insurance company will still come after you for it.
This. A DD must be cancelled not only at the bank, but by written notice to the company concerned - I found this out the hard way with a policy that the OH stopped but hadn't done the proper cancellation bit. I ripped into them but their accounts department put me right and I ended up a bit embarrassed but much the wiser. (for info, it was a Royal London home cover policy)

littleredrooster

6,095 posts

217 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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SD1992 said:
My question is, can I just cancel the direct debit and deny them all access to my bank account to effectively cancel the policy without paying an administration charge (which is taking the piss a bit)?
No. You have bought an 12-month policy, not a rolling monthly policy. The fact that they have given you credit to pay it monthly has no bearing.

SD1992

Original Poster:

7,278 posts

179 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Thanks, that is what I needed to know. Thought it sounded a bit too good to be true!

Cancellation fee it is then... frown