New car, Keen to drive it, No tax disc.....

[jimxms]

Just bought a car from a home based dealer yesterday. Car didn't unfortunately have any tax, but has a valid MOT and I've just arranged the insurance on it.

Am I right in saying that there is no way that I can drive the car until the dealer sends of the v5 change of owner slip, and I get a new log book delivered to me? Seems a bit crap as I'm happy to dish out the dollar for the disc right now and waned to take the sprogs out in it over the weekend

[trickywoo]

Unless things have changed recently you should be able to tax it in person with the 'new keeper suppliment' tear off from the existing V5.

No need to wait for a whole new V5.

[HorneyMX5]

Green new keepers slip, MOT cert and Inurance cover note. Take to post office, buy tax, job done.

Nick

[jimxms]

trickywoo said:

Unless things have changed recently you should be able to tax it in person with the 'new keeper suppliment' tear off from the existing V5.

No need to wait for a whole new V5.

Ahh....I appear to lack the suppliment! The dealer said he was going to send off something for me and I had to send off the slip from my old car which I p/x'd in for the new one.

Would the bit that he's sent off be the suppliment, or is that entirely separate?


I've not done a PX before so was letting the dealer take the lead.

[trickywoo]

The new keeper suppliment is part of the V5. Its perforated so designed to be torn off.

The rest of the V5 is sent off to the DVLA.

Quite surprised the dealer didn't give you this and request the same from the V5 on the car you p/xed.

You might be able to get it off him if its not yet been posted.

Trust you have a receipt.

[jimxms]

trickywoo said:

The new keeper suppliment is part of the V5. Its perforated so designed to be torn off.

The rest of the V5 is sent off to the DVLA.

Quite surprised the dealer didn't give you this and request the same from the V5 on the car you p/xed.

You might be able to get it off him if its not yet been posted.

Trust you have a receipt.

Indeed I do have a receipt, it's written on a Subway napkin - will that be OK?





(joke)


OK I'll call him after work and see if he's still got it so that I can go and pick it up.

[kambites]

trickywoo said:

Unless things have changed recently you should be able to tax it in person with the 'new keeper suppliment' tear off from the existing V5.

No need to wait for a whole new V5.

Correct. You can't do it online, but last time I looked you could do it at a post office if you had the new keeper supplement.

If you don't have the new keeper supplement, it's debatable whether you actually own the car...

[jimxms]

Hmm I just checked the tax status on the DVLA's website and got:


Date of Liability 01 02 2012
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due


Seems to be indicating that it is taxed up until feb 2012. I'm still going to go to the dealer and try to get the new keeper slip if he hasn't sent it off already, but does the above give me some flexibility to use the car (despite not having the disc)?

[RizzoTheRat]

kambites said:

Correct. You can't do it online, but last time I looked you could do it at a post office if you had the new keeper supplement.

Yep, I did it last week when I realised I'd never recieved the V5 for the bike. New keeper supliment, insurance, and MoT if it's over 3 years old.

[LiamM45]

No valid tax disc in the window means 3 points for failure to display.

If you're nice and explain the situation to a copper you may be lucky and get a slap on the wrists.

[ross-co]

kambites said:

trickywoo said:

Unless things have changed recently you should be able to tax it in person with the 'new keeper suppliment' tear off from the existing V5.

No need to wait for a whole new V5.

Correct. You can't do it online, but last time I looked you could do it at a post office if you had the new keeper supplement.

If you don't have the new keeper supplement, it's debatable whether you actually own the car...

It's not really debatable as being the registered keeper is not proof of owning a car, it just shows you are responsible for taxing and MOTing the vehicle. New style V5's (the red ones) clearly say this is not proof of ownership.

ETA his receipt is proof he is the new owner.

[pwd95]

Sounds like he's kept the tax disk to cash it in.

[jimxms]

pwd95 said:

Sounds like he's kept the tax disk to cash it in.

..and made me leave my one on the car

[5lab]

in the very unlikely case you get caught, isn't it only £80? for me that'd be worth the risk on a shiney new car

[E30M3SE]

pwd95 said:

Sounds like he's kept the tax disk to cash it in.

Can't do that anymore, since JAn '09 you have to be the registered keeper to claim back RFL.

[Roo]

LiamM45 said:

No valid tax disc in the window means 3 points for failure to display.

Really? I thought it was just a fine. Live and learn.

[E30M3SE]

Roo said:

No valid tax disc in the window means 3 points for failure to display.

Since when?

[Roo]

E30M3SE said:

Roo said:

No valid tax disc in the window means 3 points for failure to display.

Since when?

Oi. Sort your quoting out. I didn't say that I questioned it.

[E30M3SE]

OOOPsss. Sorry, lets start again.

LiamM45 said:

No valid tax disc in the window means 3 points for failure to display.

Since when?

Direct Govt said:

A current tax disc must be displayed on the vehicle it was bought for. If you buy a new tax disc before your current tax disc expires, you should not display the new one until the old one has expired. The new tax disc is only valid from the first day of the month you have taxed from. The maximum penalty for failure to display a current tax disc is £200. The tax disc can not be transferred between vehicles.

Edited by E30M3SE on Friday 14th October 15:47

[saaby93]

As far as I can tell theres nothing stopping you taking out a second tax disc if you cant find the original. What happens if you do it online?
Tax discs are registered to the car or not the owner or keeper which is why you dont need to change them at purchase time

However the forms are contrived to stop you buying one if you dont have the log book
V62
http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_...
V10
http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_...

Here's what google turned up about someone who tried to tax without the log book but gave up too easily

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=6548...