How old does a car need to be to be insured as a classic??
How old does a car need to be to be insured as a classic??
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swansea v6

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1,282 posts

246 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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Simple question, my gf now has a car plus my work commitments have changed so I only really need my car for fun. I do not want to sell it so can I insure it as a classic car and drive it as and when I fancy a hoon?? Is there a minimum age a car has to be before you can insure it as a classic car on a limited mileage policy?? Car is a 1998 compact 318ti.

twazzock

1,930 posts

190 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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swansea v6 said:
Simple question
Unfortunately not! Really depends on the insurer (and type of car/policy). I know there are some which will allow you a classic policy on anything over 10 years old, but others probably won't. Best off ringing around.

swansea v6

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1,282 posts

246 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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Cheers, any ideas for the best companies??

LotusOmega375D

8,997 posts

174 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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That's not a classic though: just a regular old car.

Sadly there's no simple rule. Even my old 1998 22B Subaru was not considered a classic by insurers, yet a similar age MX5 probably is.

swansea v6

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1,282 posts

246 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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I just love the way insurance companies work!! No definite rules it seems.....

Ganglandboss

8,482 posts

224 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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Classic car policy is just a name - any T&Cs or special treatment are just down to what the particular insurer wants to offer. Usually the policy will come with restrictions such as no no-claims benefit earned, limited mileage, restrictions on where it is kept etc. Footman James told me I could insure my 1999 Elise on a classic policy when I was insured with them 3 years ago. I am now insured with REIS on a 'Sports Car Policy'. It is far cheaper than a normal policy but I am limited to 5,000 p.a. and the car has to be garaged after 10:00pm (unless I'm driving it or away from home). If you speak to the likes of REIS, Adrian Flux, CCI, they will probably be able to suggest something that suits you.

Kickstart68

182 posts

186 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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Hi

Aon (now Footman James) would treat vehicles over 10 years old as eligable for a classic policy. Our Maserati 222 gets insured with them.

All the best

Keith

PS - at one time I they were happy with the average age of bikes on a classic policy being over 10 years old, hence managing to add a 7 year old Aprilia RS125 to my classic policy

kambites

70,350 posts

242 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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The whole principle of classic car insurance is that it only applies to cars which are old enough and hence unusable and eccentric enough that owners treat them with kid gloves rather than as simple means of transport so it would be amazing to me if you could get a policy on a 1998 3-series. That would seem to utterly defeat the point?

OldSkoolRS

7,062 posts

200 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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To be fair though a 1998 car is sooo last century, so it should qualify as classic. smile I thought it was more like 15 years old, but it seems it's a movable feast and down to the insurers to make up the rules (again). I'm hoping to insure a TVR on a classic policy and that might be 1998 or even later, but the difference being that it won't be my main car and the mileage will be limited to under 5,000 or even 3,000 a year.

Evil.soup

4,047 posts

226 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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This is a curious one and never considered that my car may be classed as a "classic Car" by the time its 10 years old. I can see the above point though.

I would never have considered that a £1000 1990 XR2i would fall into this bracket eg.

warp9

1,632 posts

218 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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Kickstart68 said:
Aon (now Footman James) would treat vehicles over 10 years old as eligable for a classic policy.
Not true. It depends on how you use the vehicle - is it a cherished second car, that's garaged with you driving e.g. 1500 or 3000 miles a year? Is it collectable, does it have an enthusiast club, has the depreciation curve bottomed out or is appreciating?

Or is it an old run around that you occasionally hack around town in?

Ring around the specialist brokers, but they ain't stupid.

Chris71

21,548 posts

263 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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As others have mentioned, it's complicated.

You can insure cars which are kept outside, driven lots of miles and used for commuting on a specialist policy.

You can insure your only car as a classic.

You can get more or less new cars on a classic policy (my 2001 Caterham was, for example and I'm sure the last-of-the-line 21st century TVRs are).

...but not often all on the same policy.

As a general rule, though, it helps to be a second car, with a low annual mileage that's garaged overnight. Something unusual is a bonus too. Even if you only drove a current-shape Focus or Mondeo 1,000 miles a year and garaged it every day I doubt you'd get it passed as a classic.

Gruber

6,313 posts

235 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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As said already, there's no real rules. It just seems to be a case of phoning round and seeing who's up for a quote.

Interestingly (or not!) I've just had a quote for £170 to add a 1997 BMW 328i Sport coupe winter shed to my existing classic car policy. And that's fully comp (albeit limited mileage) through to the end of July.

The thing with the specialist insurers is that they seem prepared to phone the underwriters and fight your corner.

I'm with RH Classic, who are great. And I used Lancaster last year to cover the 1989 W124 Merc - I'd recommend them too.

niva441

2,077 posts

252 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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My impression is that it depends on the insurer, using the BMW Club specialists is a good start, also the car should be at least 10 years old and you should have use of another car (so that it isn't a daily driver).

Kickstart68

182 posts

186 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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warp9 said:
Not true. It depends on how you use the vehicle - is it a cherished second car, that's garaged with you driving e.g. 1500 or 3000 miles a year? Is it collectable, does it have an enthusiast club, has the depreciation curve bottomed out or is appreciating?
That applies for anything. Use a Bugatti Type 35 for your daily commute into London and the classic insurers would run a mile.

Point was that once it is 10 years old they would consider it for classic insurance, but under that age and they would reject it even with the same use (except with fiddles).

All th best

Keith

StevelKinevil

165 posts

172 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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swansea v6 said:
Cheers, any ideas for the best companies??


try Peter Best. I had a cracking deal. 140 quid a year although the car is an '84.

LuS1fer

43,092 posts

266 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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I think it depends on the company. Classicline insure the new Mustangs on classic policies for example. Much depends on use, storage and obviously the risk posed by the type of car and the type of driver.

However, as many threads here have shown, if you can find an unusual car that itself is a low risk, you can often get a better insurance deal on those, even on a normal policy.

I say that because many classic policies neither require nor earn NCB.