100k mile celica. Am I mad?
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Am I mad to even consider buying one of these with so many miles on the clock? There seem to be quite a few out there on autotrader and in the ph classifieds that look to be in decent condition despite the mileage.
Is this a cheap(£2k) , stylish coupe or a massive money pit?
(I'm talking about the last of the line ones BTW)
Is this a cheap(£2k) , stylish coupe or a massive money pit?
(I'm talking about the last of the line ones BTW)
My friend has a gen7 with 114k on the clock. I drove it just yesterday and it feels nice and tight still, although he was saying Toyota did a big recall due to some oil burning problem with the engine, which he hasnt had done. He says he will burn 1-1.5l of oil per 1000 miles. Check if it was done on the recall.
I just don't get the obsession people have with mileage. In 1984, a Maxi with close to 95k miles on it was near the end of it's life.
In 2011, a 150k mile 1999 diesel Golf can handle daily service with little or no drama. The game's moved on. Just like speed limits and stopping distances in the highway code or obsolete almost, but no one has updated those either. Mind you, the standard of driving in this country is so poor it's probably best not to!
In 2011, a 150k mile 1999 diesel Golf can handle daily service with little or no drama. The game's moved on. Just like speed limits and stopping distances in the highway code or obsolete almost, but no one has updated those either. Mind you, the standard of driving in this country is so poor it's probably best not to!
ZeeTacoe said:
Am I mad to even consider buying one of these with so many miles on the clock? There seem to be quite a few out there on autotrader and in the ph classifieds that look to be in decent condition despite the mileage.
Is this a cheap(£2k) , stylish coupe or a massive money pit?
(I'm talking about the last of the line ones BTW)
I had a P plate 7A-FE (1.8 st) model a few years ago, bought it with 124k on the clock, ran it for two years, P/X it with 180ish on the clock and still ran with no issues, the only thing that did not work on the car was the air con, cracking motor it was....Is this a cheap(£2k) , stylish coupe or a massive money pit?
(I'm talking about the last of the line ones BTW)
Kitchski said:
I just don't get the obsession people have with mileage. In 1984, a Maxi with close to 95k miles on it was near the end of it's life.
In 2011, a 150k mile 1999 diesel Golf can handle daily service with little or no drama. The game's moved on. Just like speed limits and stopping distances in the highway code or obsolete almost, but no one has updated those either. Mind you, the standard of driving in this country is so poor it's probably best not to!
I agree mileage isn't the most important thing, however i don't think the game has moved on much at all. Infact i think some manufacturers have got worse - BMW, Merc and Toyota for example, I reckon 20 years ago they were making more reliable engines than they are now.In 2011, a 150k mile 1999 diesel Golf can handle daily service with little or no drama. The game's moved on. Just like speed limits and stopping distances in the highway code or obsolete almost, but no one has updated those either. Mind you, the standard of driving in this country is so poor it's probably best not to!
Kong said:
Kitchski said:
I just don't get the obsession people have with mileage. In 1984, a Maxi with close to 95k miles on it was near the end of it's life.
In 2011, a 150k mile 1999 diesel Golf can handle daily service with little or no drama. The game's moved on. Just like speed limits and stopping distances in the highway code or obsolete almost, but no one has updated those either. Mind you, the standard of driving in this country is so poor it's probably best not to!
I agree mileage isn't the most important thing, however i don't think the game has moved on much at all. Infact i think some manufacturers have got worse - BMW, Merc and Toyota for example, I reckon 20 years ago they were making more reliable engines than they are now.In 2011, a 150k mile 1999 diesel Golf can handle daily service with little or no drama. The game's moved on. Just like speed limits and stopping distances in the highway code or obsolete almost, but no one has updated those either. Mind you, the standard of driving in this country is so poor it's probably best not to!
Kong said:
I agree mileage isn't the most important thing, however i don't think the game has moved on much at all. Infact i think some manufacturers have got worse - BMW, Merc and Toyota for example, I reckon 20 years ago they were making more reliable engines than they are now.
Yeah I agree, there will be exceptions to the rule. But it's not just engines. A Maxi would have been on death's door because chances are there wasn't much left to weld to, the paint had deteriorated, the interior was worn through and every king pin or link joint that was supposed to be oiled during services wasn't because of lack of proper maintenance (something we still have today).To flip that over, I bought a 2003 Xsara Picasso 2.0 HDI the other day (can't believe I admitted on PH but there) for less than £1k. It's done 115k miles and the only thing that doesn't work is the aircon because a pipe has been broken. Still does near 50mpg, doesn't rattle, doesn't smoke, drives straight and everything works (except the trip computer when it rains, sometimes). It's not even close to being knackered. It could probably do another 115k miles yet. Similar to that, I had a Mondeo ST200 a couple of years ago with 140k or so on the clock. Still went well (once I'd sorted the IMRC), drove straight, no knocks or smoke etc and the aircon worked on that! Little to no service history on it, bought for a grand.
And the most reliable car I've ever owned was a Citroen BX 1.9 diesel. Still (kinda) own it and it's currently showing 203k miles or something like that. The engine is still sweet as a nut to this day. Body is falling off it now though!
Mileage will never put me off a car. I always buy a car on it's merits and nothing else.
Negative Creep said:
Kong said:
Kitchski said:
I just don't get the obsession people have with mileage. In 1984, a Maxi with close to 95k miles on it was near the end of it's life.
In 2011, a 150k mile 1999 diesel Golf can handle daily service with little or no drama. The game's moved on. Just like speed limits and stopping distances in the highway code or obsolete almost, but no one has updated those either. Mind you, the standard of driving in this country is so poor it's probably best not to!
I agree mileage isn't the most important thing, however i don't think the game has moved on much at all. Infact i think some manufacturers have got worse - BMW, Merc and Toyota for example, I reckon 20 years ago they were making more reliable engines than they are now.In 2011, a 150k mile 1999 diesel Golf can handle daily service with little or no drama. The game's moved on. Just like speed limits and stopping distances in the highway code or obsolete almost, but no one has updated those either. Mind you, the standard of driving in this country is so poor it's probably best not to!
ambuletz said:
which are the ones that have the 190hp engines? (VVTLi). T-sport, and GT, but what else?
how does it vary with pre-facelift and facelift? its one of those bits that confused me. generally which are the ones to go for?
The 190hp models are:how does it vary with pre-facelift and facelift? its one of those bits that confused me. generally which are the ones to go for?
- Celica 190
- T-Sport (Basically the facelift version of the Celica 190)
- GT
Kong said:
I agree mileage isn't the most important thing, however i don't think the game has moved on much at all. Infact i think some manufacturers have got worse - BMW, Merc and Toyota for example, I reckon 20 years ago they were making more reliable engines than they are now.
is it not more a case of people these days being dumb and negligent? I'm sure back in the day people would have taken more care with their cars, treated it more seriously. But now you get some people who forget to even check their tyre pressures, or not have an oil change for several years.I'm not sure, I'm still abiit wary about cars that go over 100k. especially if they have several owners, as you never know how each owner has treated that car.
How would you maintain a car that's in high miles? I've always liked the idea of buying a car, and owning it for a really long time/clocking up tons of miles on it. (I'm talking owning a car for 20 years, or 300k miles or more)
I was always under the impression that the engine is the most important/expensive thing that could go wrong. 1st prority is check/top up the fluids every month or so. Every 6-12months give it oil/filter changes. 2nd to that, keep timing belts changed according to manufacturers guidelines.
Kitchski said:
Negative Creep said:
Kong said:
Kitchski said:
I just don't get the obsession people have with mileage. In 1984, a Maxi with close to 95k miles on it was near the end of it's life.
In 2011, a 150k mile 1999 diesel Golf can handle daily service with little or no drama. The game's moved on. Just like speed limits and stopping distances in the highway code or obsolete almost, but no one has updated those either. Mind you, the standard of driving in this country is so poor it's probably best not to!
I agree mileage isn't the most important thing, however i don't think the game has moved on much at all. Infact i think some manufacturers have got worse - BMW, Merc and Toyota for example, I reckon 20 years ago they were making more reliable engines than they are now.In 2011, a 150k mile 1999 diesel Golf can handle daily service with little or no drama. The game's moved on. Just like speed limits and stopping distances in the highway code or obsolete almost, but no one has updated those either. Mind you, the standard of driving in this country is so poor it's probably best not to!
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