What's the greater roundabout motoring sin?

[Graebob]

I live in Milton Keynes, land of concrete and roundabouts. People's efforts at negotiating these roundabouts are usually ste, and I find myself steadily more and more depressed at peoples general laziness.

The question is, what is the greater sin? Straight-lining (i.e.: L1 > L2 > L1 across the roundabout) or not using indicators?

There's only one way to find out...

POLL!!

[Vimto156]

Not indicating is just so bloody annoying and dare i say it, a very selfish act., especially on a busy roundabout..

[Snowboy]

Depends on the size of the roundabout and the location of any other traffic.

I straightline all the time on quiet roundabouts.
I also straightline on roundabouts where it's not possible to get 2 cars side by side no matter what the painted lines say.

Indicators.
I'll only indicate if there's someone there to see it.

[DanielJames]

I often straight line if there's no traffic

You only live once after all.

:|

[TheEnd]

I'd expect straight lining from most drivers, so give them the extra space to be an idiot in, no indicators is probably worse in my book.

[pacman1]

Both are equally poor, only beaten by those entering roundabouts without indicating, only to indicate left when exiting. A sure fired way to superheat my urine.

[soda]

Nothing winds me up more than people not indicating. Especially when its busy and your waiting to get on and ttface Mcyballs pulls off with no indicator, and wait some more.

[Digger]

I'd go with the not indicating. As above but not indicating (in the presence of other drivers) regardless really grinds my gears. I speak as a consummate jaywalker though.

Edited by Digger on Monday 24th October 15:26

[Snowboy]

pacman1 said:

Both are equally poor, only beaten by those entering roundabouts without indicating, only to indicate left when exiting. A sure fired way to superheat my urine.

Is that not the correct procedure when going straight on?

Although, for clarity, one should start indicating when passing the last junction before the one taken, as opposed to indication as one leaves the roundabout.
Although, there are a lot of smaller roundabouts where the exists are so close there's almost no space to indicate more than one tick before pulling off.

[Mr Gearchange]

How do you straight line with indicators?

Have you got a third specially fitted central indicator that signals your intent to go straight on?

[GFWilliams]

Fook straight lining the roundabout when no one else is about, I try to get a dab of oppo

[The Wookie]

I voted straighlining.

I straightline empty roundabouts frequently, but on a wide roundabout with other traffic around I'd say on balance straight lining is worse than non-indication.

Neither are as bad as turning right from the left hand lane with no-indication. Thankfully fairly infrequent but the complete feckless ignorance of the perpetrator as to how fking stupid and dangerous what they've just done is depressingly regular.

[marcosgt]

If a roundabout's clear and nothing's approaching it ahead of you, straight line it all the time, but make sure you always signal, otherwise everyone else has to be psychic to know where you're going.

As for holding lane discipline and not signalling, at some point you have to leave the roundabout and/or change lane on it. Expecting people to be psychic and knowing which of 5 exits you're going to take is stupid, rather than just selfish and if you need to move out from one lane to another with other cars around, how exactly are you going to achieve that safely without use of indicator?

Ideal of course is to exhibit appropriate lane discipline AND signal! About 5% of people seem to do this.

M.

[Graebob]

Mr Gearchange said:

How do you straight line with indicators?

Have you got a third specially fitted central indicator that signals your intent to go straight on?

Start indicating left almost as soon as you're onto the <yank>traffic circle</yank>, just in case anyone on your exit road is unable to interpret your action and thinks "L2 must be turning right"

[ATTAK Z]

Mr Gearchange said:

How do you straight line with indicators?

Have you got a third specially fitted central indicator that signals your intent to go straight on?

In Nigeria, an intention to go straight on as opposed to a right or left turn is indicated by the hazards ... true

[marcosgt]

Graebob said:

Mr Gearchange said:

How do you straight line with indicators?

Have you got a third specially fitted central indicator that signals your intent to go straight on?

Start indicating left almost as soon as you're onto the <yank>traffic circle</yank>, just in case anyone on your exit road is unable to interpret your action and thinks "L2 must be turning right"

Surely, you just indicate right until you pass the exit before you intend to come off and then indicate left?

Seems pretty simple to me, but maybe I'm doing it all wrong

M.

[alfa pint]

They're both criminal and fecking dangerous at the 2 main roundabouts at each end of the town I have to pass through to get to the civilisation of Glasgow.

The first roundabout has well marked lanes, but these are a recent invention around here and many cars in the left lane cut up into the right lane without warning or looking or any awareness that they should have stuck to the inside left. At least it's a slow speed accident...

At the other end, it's at the middle of a NSL dual carriageway. 95% of all cars heading west use both lanes to enter the dual carriageway; it's a rare car that turns right to take the single lane off for the village. You wouldn't believe the number of those right hander turners who don't indicate and nearly get taken out because people assume they're going straight on.

[ADEuk]

I enjoy winding up people who dont realise they have to actually be on the roundabout before they get the right of way. Barrelling towards it at 40 mph with no intention of slowing down will only encourage me to pull slowly out of my junction

[Snowboy]

marcosgt said:

Surely, you just indicate right until you pass the exit before you intend to come off and then indicate left?

Seems pretty simple to me, but maybe I'm doing it all wrong

M.

I may need to review my highwaycode.
I always thought that if one was going straighover one didn't indicate until approaching the junction one wanted to exit.
In which case you should be on the outside of the roundabout, or the second lane in the case of a dual carriageway exit.
You only indicate left or right if going first exit or 3rd or later exit.


Applying a bit of common sense for the stranger roundabouts with odd shapes, more lanes then exits and so forth.



edit - section 186 of the Highway Code.
186
Signals and position.

When taking the first exit to the left, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

signal left and approach in the left-hand lane
keep to the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave
When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

signal right and approach in the right-hand lane
keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout
signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want
When taking any intermediate exit, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

select the appropriate lane on approach to the roundabout
you should not normally need to signal on approach
stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout
signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want
When there are more than three lanes at the entrance to a roundabout, use the most appropriate lane on approach and through it.

Edited by Snowboy on Monday 24th October 15:38

[blueone97]

Not indicating is bloody annoying but straightlining gets my vote because of the times I've nearly had my front end taken out by someone in the left lane.