RE: Saab: Going, Going, Hang On A Minute...
RE: Saab: Going, Going, Hang On A Minute...
Friday 28th October 2011

Saab: Going, Going, Hang On A Minute...

Chinese sign purchase agreement for Saab Automobile and Saab GB



A press release has been issued today by Saab, suggesting the Chinese will be buying Saab lock, stock and barrel for 100 million Euros. The deal is still pending the approval of 'the relevant authorities', which we assume means the Chinese, er, Mandarins... So is the fat lady still gargling backstage?

Still, it sounds like good news!

Press release:

"Swedish Automobile N.V. (Swan) announces that it entered into a memorandum of understanding with Pang Da and Youngman for the sale and purchase of 100% of the shares of Saab Automobile AB (Saab Automobile) and Saab Great Britain Ltd. (Saab GB) for a consideration of EUR 100 million.

"Final agreement between the parties is subject to a definitive share purchase agreement between Swan, Pang Da and Youngman, which will contain certain conditions including the approval of the relevant authorities, Swan's shareholders and certain other parties. The consideration of EUR 100 million will be paid in instalments. An important consideration for Swan to enter into the transaction is the commitment of Pang Da and Youngman to provide long term funding to Saab Automobile.

"The administrator in Saab Automobile's voluntary reorganisation, Mr. Guy Lofalk, has withdrawn his application to exit reorganisation. The MOU is valid until November 15 of this year, provided Saab Automobile stays in reorganisation."

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The Danimal

Original Poster:

178 posts

176 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Great news!... The Chinese did such a good job with Rover.

johnpeat

5,328 posts

286 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Yeah, how does the Chinese buying Saab offer anything whatsoever to car enthusiasts??

The new Saab QionPing - based on a Kia Rio with a padlock fitted to the reverse slot...

toppstuff

13,698 posts

268 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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The Danimal said:
Great news!... The Chinese did such a good job with Rover.
But the Chinese are doing pretty well with Volvo.

I think Rover's woes had less to do with the Chinese and a lot to do with politicians and dodgy chancers after a quick buck.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

268 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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johnpeat said:
Yeah, how does the Chinese buying Saab offer anything whatsoever to car enthusiasts??

The new Saab QionPing - based on a Kia Rio with a padlock fitted to the reverse slot...
Kia are Korean you muppet.

woody2846

1,369 posts

171 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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I think this is a good thing-it's much better than the other scenario which would mean Saab going bankrupt!!

Twincam16

27,647 posts

279 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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toppstuff said:
The Danimal said:
Great news!... The Chinese did such a good job with Rover.
But the Chinese are doing pretty well with Volvo.

I think Rover's woes had less to do with the Chinese and a lot to do with politicians and dodgy chancers after a quick buck.
yes

After going through a dull patch post-TWR when they seemed to be rebodied Fords with safety kit designed by the Daily Mail, Volvo actually seem to be improving under Geely. They're superb-looking cars these days, half-decent to drive by all accounts.

Also, Geely have bought into some of the world's best build quality. Despite GM-related wobbles, Saab also have a reputation for solidity, hopefully something that YM/PD can also harness.

Their first action, however, should be to ditch the 9-4X in favour of bringing forward the 9-1.

cookie1600

2,422 posts

182 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Yep, a better scenario than going to the wall as long as the cars are designed and (at least the European market ones) are built at Trollhättan. If this comes off at least I may be able to consider the new 9-3 Convertible when it finally materialises. I don't see anyone at Volvo complaining about Chinese owners and JLR vehicles seem to be going from strength to strength under India ownership.

We've just got to get used to the new World - The Chinese will soon own many European countries anyway.....

johnpeat

5,328 posts

286 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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toppstuff said:
Kia are Korean you muppet.
and the Chinese have never bought tooling for a car from anywhere but China?

Stop looking for things which aren't there - numnuts...

Dangermouse78

120 posts

194 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Well so much for Spyker making Sabbs lol. It's possibly for the best, assuming that the Chinese dont try to build them in house then ship out like they're doing with MG. They should just own Saab & keep the factories going as they are

woody2846

1,369 posts

171 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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I personally think they will keep the Trollhattan factory open to supply the western markets, im sure they will open up other factories In China but for these to supply the East.

Deluded

4,968 posts

212 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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I haven't really been following this whole Saab thing so not really much I can bring to the thread... But...



That is a stunning car!

AntoE28

1 posts

171 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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The new 9-5 Aero looks incredible, real wolf in sheeps clothing IMO, however, as a Saab owner, I think the brand is doomed.
I cannot see how the best advertising campaigns are going to presuade A) the current Saab owners & B) the general public to purchase Saab Autos going forward with uncertainty in terms of dealerships(limited)/warrenty plus the threat that it may all go pear shaped after 12month in the hands of the chineese....

Swifty Stig

641 posts

189 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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toppstuff said:
Kia are Korean you muppet.
Toyota are Japanese but Aston Martin are basing the Cygnet on an iQ. Brands and countries sharing models aint uncommon.

lgomgf

237 posts

209 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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cookie1600 said:
We've just got to get used to the new World - The Chinese will soon own many European countries anyway.....
lets make ours bets... Greece and Spain must be very cheap today...

lgomgf

237 posts

209 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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cookie1600 said:
We've just got to get used to the new World - The Chinese will soon own many European countries anyway.....
lets make ours bets... Greece and Spain must be very cheap today...

Lefty

19,243 posts

223 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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johnpeat said:
toppstuff said:
Kia are Korean you muppet.
and the Chinese have never bought tooling for a car from anywhere but China?

Stop looking for things which aren't there - numnuts...
hehe

TurboDiesel

17 posts

232 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Honestly that 9-5 is fantastic

but from a business point of view, its a flawed with no real long term solution

the company has been in rough waters lately and that affects customers wanting to buy new Saabs,
apart from looking good, there is no real breakthrough in the car. It doesn't entice people to buy it.
Resale value is pathetic so people again wont be wanting to spend on a car where after 3 years, they can
barely get 30% of 30 odd grand.

Its also in a market where people tend to choose distinctly between two types, executive cars and the average car. To be fair, its not as flashy as BMW or Merc or Audi or Lexus (people are brand conscious these days), and its too much for an average family car, stuck between both and no real reason to buy one.

I sat in a 2008 Saab 9-3 Vector and drove it a few miles, apart from having a decent petrol turbo, the car was an absolute joke, it is very dull and that interior as bland as a Hyundai i10. I was surprised to see why anyone would buy one.

forzaminardi

2,298 posts

208 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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Youngman! You can drive a S-A-A-B...

v8250

2,747 posts

232 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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This is great news for Saab - to have potential long-term financial security in these cash-strapped times; particularly within the auto-industry. I don't think Saab will suffer being owned by a Chinese industrial group. It makes perfect sense for Trollhatten to remain open for Europe and possibly US markets, then for Saab China to manufacture for Far East markets.

Interestingly, I don't see this acquisition having any effect on the die-hard Saab customers; they're very loyal - despite stiff/better competition from BMW, Merc, Audi etc. Saabs are quirky cars in their own unique way; irrespective of re-badged components from other Co's i.e. previously G.M. Sometimes we all get slightly nostalgic with modern cars, linking current day models to their long historic pasts and especially when the manufacturer has strong motorsport links i.e. Eric Carlsson et al.

I'm due to be changing my Co' car this year and I will still have a Saab as a prefered option. They're not the best in their given market space but produce a good product. Good luck to Saab - I hope the deal goes through yes

A Scotsman

1,001 posts

220 months

Friday 28th October 2011
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According to the BBC the deal has or is going through and "Cash-strapped Swedish carmaker Saab has signed a deal to be taken over by two Chinese firms for 100m euros (£88m)."