Just got hooted by driving instructor
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He was sitting at a green light (no filter) waiting to turn right on to A127 but wouldn't move on to yellow box or cross the lights so I went around him. He hooted. Oh and didn't get anywhere as lights changed soon after. Probably still there now.
And these are the people that teach new drivers.......
And these are the people that teach new drivers.......
Isn't there same clause that says you can go into a yellow box so long as your exit will be clear by the time the lights change.
So – you can go into the box while the oncoming traffic is busy knowing that you can leave the box once the lights change.
The exit may be clear – but you can't get to the exit due to oncoming traffic.
So – you can go into the box while the oncoming traffic is busy knowing that you can leave the box once the lights change.
The exit may be clear – but you can't get to the exit due to oncoming traffic.
Snowboy said:
Isn't there same clause that says you can go into a yellow box so long as your exit will be clear by the time the lights change.
So – you can go into the box while the oncoming traffic is busy knowing that you can leave the box once the lights change.
The exit may be clear – but you can't get to the exit due to oncoming traffic.
Yes, I believe that's true. I took the OP's comment to mean that the exit wasn't clear, but I think rereading it that I'm wrong and the guy was just waiting for oncoming traffic. So – you can go into the box while the oncoming traffic is busy knowing that you can leave the box once the lights change.
The exit may be clear – but you can't get to the exit due to oncoming traffic.
I didn't see anything in the original post stating that the exit wasn't clear. He did state that the ADI was waiting to turn right though, which meant that he should have moved into the box. (Obviously, only if his exit was clear).
The fact that the OP went around him, indicates that it was.
Tim
The fact that the OP went around him, indicates that it was.
Tim
^^^^ can only enter a box a) if the exit is clear, b) if you're turning right and the road you're entering is clear.
So the driving instructor was in the wrong for not entering the box, but the OP is also in the wrong - OP should have just sat behind the instructor and fumed impatiently, not undercut him. However, I might well have done the same.
So the driving instructor was in the wrong for not entering the box, but the OP is also in the wrong - OP should have just sat behind the instructor and fumed impatiently, not undercut him. However, I might well have done the same.
Lets Torque said:
Do you mean a box junction? If so, you arn't supposed to go into them unless your exit is clear. 
Partial pass.Dr Interceptor said:
Did you move forward and stop in the yellow box?
If so, you were in the wrong.
Fail.If so, you were in the wrong.
kambites said:
You can't expect people to move into a box junction if the exit isn't clear. Assuming that you passed on his left, I've no idea why he'd hoot at you though.catman said:
I notice a growing number of people who have no idea about dealing with box junctions.
They either drive into them when their exit isn't clear, or fail to enter them when turning right.
Maybe it's time to bring back the public information ads that we used to see?
Tim
Pass.They either drive into them when their exit isn't clear, or fail to enter them when turning right.
Maybe it's time to bring back the public information ads that we used to see?
Tim
doogz said:
Wow. Lots of fail.
The only time you should enter a yellow hatched box, is if you know you can get out the other side, or you're waiting to turn right, the road you want to turn into is clear, and it's only oncoming traffic that's holding you up.
Worrying, how few people actually know the rules of the road.
Pass.The only time you should enter a yellow hatched box, is if you know you can get out the other side, or you're waiting to turn right, the road you want to turn into is clear, and it's only oncoming traffic that's holding you up.
Worrying, how few people actually know the rules of the road.
Snowboy said:
Isn't there same clause that says you can go into a yellow box so long as your exit will be clear by the time the lights change.
So – you can go into the box while the oncoming traffic is busy knowing that you can leave the box once the lights change.
The exit may be clear – but you can't get to the exit due to oncoming traffic.
Marginal pass.So – you can go into the box while the oncoming traffic is busy knowing that you can leave the box once the lights change.
The exit may be clear – but you can't get to the exit due to oncoming traffic.
catman said:
I didn't see anything in the original post stating that the exit wasn't clear. He did state that the ADI was waiting to turn right though, which meant that he should have moved into the box. (Obviously, only if his exit was clear).
The fact that the OP went around him, indicates that it was.
Tim
Pass.The fact that the OP went around him, indicates that it was.
Tim
Here's the answer: (see my bold)
highwaycode said:
Box junctions. These have criss-cross yellow lines painted on the road (see 'Road markings'). You MUST NOT enter the box until your exit road or lane is clear. However, you may enter the box and wait when you want to turn right, and are only stopped from doing so by oncoming traffic, or by other vehicles waiting to turn right. At signalled roundabouts you MUST NOT enter the box unless you can cross over it completely without stopping.
mrmr96 said:
Snowboy said:
Isn't there same clause that says you can go into a yellow box so long as your exit will be clear by the time the lights change.
So – you can go into the box while the oncoming traffic is busy knowing that you can leave the box once the lights change.
The exit may be clear – but you can't get to the exit due to oncoming traffic.
Marginal pass.So – you can go into the box while the oncoming traffic is busy knowing that you can leave the box once the lights change.
The exit may be clear – but you can't get to the exit due to oncoming traffic.
highwaycode said:
.... However, you may enter the box and wait when you want to turn right, and are only stopped from doing so by oncoming traffic, or by other vehicles waiting to turn right.
How come I only got a marginal pass.
I was right.
Just to confirm both of us were wanting to turn right on to the A127 he was not crossing the lights to q with the couple of other cars infront that were waiting on the yellow box to turn east along the A127. He was just sitting there in the right turn lane at a green light. So I went round him, sat on the yellow box waiting to turn right when clear of oncoming traffic.
Out of interest straight ahead was clear nobody would have stopped on the yellow box going staight
And yes I shouldn't of gone round him but the junction was quiet and I have better things to do than sit behind a muppet that is supposed to know better.
Out of interest straight ahead was clear nobody would have stopped on the yellow box going staight
And yes I shouldn't of gone round him but the junction was quiet and I have better things to do than sit behind a muppet that is supposed to know better.
Edited by Gixer on Tuesday 1st November 11:49
I've got a question. Are box junctions supposed to be 'box' shaped? Cos the local boroughs round here have taken to making them all sorts of weird shapes (eg triangular 'sail' shapes if they feel like it). They also frequently burn them back off and repaint them in a different manner once they realise how they've f
ked up the traffic flow. That's our council tax at work, boys 
ked up the traffic flow. That's our council tax at work, boys randlemarcus said:
Snowboy said:
HEY..
How come I only got a marginal pass.
I was right.
Your post reads as if you are allowed in to the box when going straight on, when the rule is right turn only.How come I only got a marginal pass.
I was right.
Strict interpretation rules apply. None of this namby pamby "marks for effort" malarkey.
Lets Torque said:
I got a Marginal Pass and I can't even drive yet!
I guess you're learning to drive? In some ways learners and newly qualified drivers are better at the highway code because they've studied it more recently than most drivers.
mrmr96 said:
Lets Torque said:
I got a Marginal Pass and I can't even drive yet!
I guess you're learning to drive? In some ways learners and newly qualified drivers are better at the highway code because they've studied it more recently than most drivers.
Well I turn 17 in December so in the new year I would be driving (and learning). I haven't looked at any books yet either.
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