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KardioKate

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1,584 posts

175 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Been informed this morning that someone I've known well has been killed in a car accident this morning.

His driving was atrocious, to the point his insurance company insisted on him having a black box - but it didn't stop him.

This isn'r a "slow down" post, just use speed sensibly, yeah, guys?

Don't drive like a knob.

boobles

15,251 posts

236 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Sorry to hear about your friend, but a black box? This is a new one on me! Never heard of any insurance company doing that....

KardioKate

Original Poster:

1,584 posts

175 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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boobles said:
Sorry to hear about your friend, but a black box? This is a new one on me! Never heard of any insurance company doing that....
They've been doing it for a while, certainly with young drivers who have had a few prangs.

boobles

15,251 posts

236 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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They should use them for "old" drivers rather than the young people of society!

Never have any issues with the younger drivers, it's always the old & senile ones that get me!

KardioKate

Original Poster:

1,584 posts

175 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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boobles said:
They should use them for "old" drivers rather than the young people of society!

Never have any issues with the younger drivers, it's always the old & senile ones that get me!
I think they're only used when the driver has a track record...

This guy had certainly had a number of smaller prangs. I know he had a strict mileage limit and this box supposedly measures speed / braking force etc...

StottyZr

6,860 posts

184 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Sorry to hear about your friend. Fortunatly none of mine have had any serious injuries... Yet.

boobles

15,251 posts

236 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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KardioKate said:
boobles said:
They should use them for "old" drivers rather than the young people of society!

Never have any issues with the younger drivers, it's always the old & senile ones that get me!
I think they're only used when the driver has a track record...

This guy had certainly had a number of smaller prangs. I know he had a strict mileage limit and this box supposedly measures speed / braking force etc...
But unfortunatley for your friend, this box didn't save him.......

Think more could be done in educating etc rather than sticking a box under the seat.


StottyZr

6,860 posts

184 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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boobles said:
KardioKate said:
boobles said:
They should use them for "old" drivers rather than the young people of society!

Never have any issues with the younger drivers, it's always the old & senile ones that get me!
I think they're only used when the driver has a track record...

This guy had certainly had a number of smaller prangs. I know he had a strict mileage limit and this box supposedly measures speed / braking force etc...
But unfortunatley for your friend, this box didn't save him.......

Think more could be done in educating etc rather than sticking a box under the seat.
I disagree. I've had a couple of very close shaves over the last few years and I was well aware of the consequences. A black box monitoring my every move would have stopped me "coming close"

Nick3point2

3,920 posts

201 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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StottyZr said:
boobles said:
KardioKate said:
boobles said:
They should use them for "old" drivers rather than the young people of society!

Never have any issues with the younger drivers, it's always the old & senile ones that get me!
I think they're only used when the driver has a track record...

This guy had certainly had a number of smaller prangs. I know he had a strict mileage limit and this box supposedly measures speed / braking force etc...
But unfortunatley for your friend, this box didn't save him.......

Think more could be done in educating etc rather than sticking a box under the seat.
I disagree. I've had a couple of very close shaves over the last few years and I was well aware of the consequences. A black box monitoring my every move would have stopped me "coming close"
So if a black box under the seat can make you drive sensibly, why don't you just drive sensibly anyway?

boobles

15,251 posts

236 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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StottyZr said:
boobles said:
KardioKate said:
boobles said:
They should use them for "old" drivers rather than the young people of society!

Never have any issues with the younger drivers, it's always the old & senile ones that get me!
I think they're only used when the driver has a track record...

This guy had certainly had a number of smaller prangs. I know he had a strict mileage limit and this box supposedly measures speed / braking force etc...
But unfortunatley for your friend, this box didn't save him.......

Think more could be done in educating etc rather than sticking a box under the seat.
I disagree. I've had a couple of very close shaves over the last few years and I was well aware of the consequences. A black box monitoring my every move would have stopped me "coming close"
But it didn't help the OP's friend. This was my point really. I do believe that 9 times out of ten, a black box will assist as a reminder to the driver not to drive without caution, but thats all it can ever do! It can't stop people from driving to fast or dangerously & it didn't prevent this poor young chap from losing his life.

KardioKate

Original Poster:

1,584 posts

175 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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StottyZr said:
I disagree. I've had a couple of very close shaves over the last few years and I was well aware of the consequences. A black box monitoring my every move would have stopped me "coming close"
To be fair, I don't think he'd have listened to any more education. He drove like a prick, and knew it.

vit4

3,507 posts

191 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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OP, sorry to hear your loss frown


KardioKate said:
I think they're only used when the driver has a track record...

This guy had certainly had a number of smaller prangs. I know he had a strict mileage limit and this box supposedly measures speed / braking force etc...
My insurance company tried to give me a black box (totally clean license, no accidents, just a ridiculous premium due to the postcode). However the discount was nominal and it would go up as well as down. The bloke on the phone was being very cagey about it as well, but for me the tipping point was when reading the information leaflet.

From memory, it read something like "However, in month 4 Will had to swerve & suddenly stop because a dog ran out in the road. Luckily, because his driving had been fine in the first quarter, his premium did not go up." So in other words, for me avoiding two accidents they would bump up my premium, my fault or not! Challenged the company about it and was told something like "it's not the point/not important" but they refused to answer, so I can only presume that being the case. confused

KardioKate

Original Poster:

1,584 posts

175 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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The Crack Fox said:
My thoughts too.
I don't know... hope not as well.

DanielC4GP

2,792 posts

172 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Sorry to hear about losing a mate, it's always the friends and family that I feel sorry for when someone kills themselves after driving like knob.

A lot of people I know have been lucky enough to have learnt a lesson after having less serious accidents after knobish driving (myself included) but I suppose there's always a few that don't learn from their mistakes or aren't lucky enough that their first accident isn't a serious one.

StottyZr

6,860 posts

184 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Nick3point2 said:
StottyZr said:
boobles said:
KardioKate said:
boobles said:
They should use them for "old" drivers rather than the young people of society!

Never have any issues with the younger drivers, it's always the old & senile ones that get me!
I think they're only used when the driver has a track record...

This guy had certainly had a number of smaller prangs. I know he had a strict mileage limit and this box supposedly measures speed / braking force etc...
But unfortunatley for your friend, this box didn't save him.......

Think more could be done in educating etc rather than sticking a box under the seat.
I disagree. I've had a couple of very close shaves over the last few years and I was well aware of the consequences. A black box monitoring my every move would have stopped me "coming close"
So if a black box under the seat can make you drive sensibly, why don't you just drive sensibly anyway?
Young and stupid with very little sense of danger... For fun... To "impress piers" need the list go on?

Marf

22,907 posts

262 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Nick3point2 said:
StottyZr said:
boobles said:
KardioKate said:
boobles said:
They should use them for "old" drivers rather than the young people of society!

Never have any issues with the younger drivers, it's always the old & senile ones that get me!
I think they're only used when the driver has a track record...

This guy had certainly had a number of smaller prangs. I know he had a strict mileage limit and this box supposedly measures speed / braking force etc...
But unfortunatley for your friend, this box didn't save him.......

Think more could be done in educating etc rather than sticking a box under the seat.
I disagree. I've had a couple of very close shaves over the last few years and I was well aware of the consequences. A black box monitoring my every move would have stopped me "coming close"
So if a black box under the seat can make you drive sensibly, why don't you just drive sensibly anyway?
Because young men are idiots?

E55 Max

1,189 posts

193 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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StottyZr said:
Young and stupid with very little sense of danger... For fun... To "impress piers" need the list go on?
Who is Piers?

don'tbesilly

15,362 posts

184 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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KardioKate said:
I don't know... hope not as well.
Sorry to hear about the loss Kate, but are you pre judging your friend here?

It seems you don't know all the details of the accident I'm presuming, so how do you know your friend was responsible for the accident that resulted in him losing his life.

mercfunder

8,535 posts

194 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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E55 Max said:
StottyZr said:
Young and stupid with very little sense of danger... For fun... To "impress piers" need the list go on?
Who is Piers?
Fat ex tabloid journalist who has somehow got on TV with all the other oxygen thieves, Perhaps Stotty wants to go on his talk show.

Seriously, drive like a knob and it will eventually catch up with you.
My sympathies to the people he left behind.

StottyZr

6,860 posts

184 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Marf said:
Because young men are idiots?
Sums it up pretty well yes