Road deaths rise 7%

[CoolHands]

Oops. What is BRAKE going to blame now then? It can't be 'speed' so.....?

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057483/Ro...

[anonymous-user]

Is it just me, or is are they just making stuff up now? In mathematical terms, the sample size is totally insufficent. It could be just pure chance that a few more people died rather than survived this year rather than last year.

[vonhosen]

CoolHands said:

Oops. What is BRAKE going to blame now then? It can't be 'speed' so.....?

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057483/Ro...

They might claim it's the cuts in funding to SCPs that's to blame.

[dougc]

In order of likelihood.

1. Public sector cuts
2. Tories
3. Bankers

[CoolHands]

Well I know what you mean. In the past there has been some totally nonsensical numbers bandied about, like deaths down by 4% or something because of a particular speed camera, and it turns out there was simply one less KSI! Pathetic.

I'm surprised they didn't manage to massage the figures enough to continue the deaths going down year on year. Like crime figures, they manage to report consistently better figures year on year...

[vonhosen]

CoolHands said:

Well I know what you mean. In the past there has been some totally nonsensical numbers bandied about, like deaths down by 4% or something because of a particular speed camera, and it turns out there was simply one less KSI! Pathetic.

I'm surprised they didn't manage to massage the figures enough to continue the deaths going down year on year. Like crime figures, they manage to report consistently better figures year on year...

It's kind of hard to massage the death figures, they are a matter of public record.

[Negative Creep]

dougc said:

In order of likelihood.

1. Public sector cuts
2. Tories
3. Bankers

What about illegal immigrants?

[dougc]

Negative Creep said:

dougc said:

In order of likelihood.

1. Public sector cuts
2. Tories
3. Bankers

What about illegal immigrants?

Thats sooooooooooooooooo 2007...

[Mastodon2]

Max_Torque said:

Is it just me, or is are they just making stuff up now? In mathematical terms, the sample size is totally insufficent. It could be just pure chance that a few more people died rather than survived this year rather than last year.

You're bang on there. The general public are quite susceptible to this sort of thing, it's very easy to present statistics in a dishonest fashion with the aim of manipulating opinion. As we don't have a huge number of road deaths in this country per year, the sample size is already small, which has an inherent quality of unreliability. A 7% increase this year is just a variation from and regression towards the mean - handy for road safety zealots though. If they implemented the 80mph limit on DCs and M-ways this year and the figure decreased by 7% down the previous mean, they would be absolutely stumped!

[paolow]

surely even though cars are safer than ever in terms of accident survivability, with an ageing and thus increasingly fragile population the KSI accidents are going to rise as even a relatively low speed shunt could well knacker an otherwise healthy pensioner?
I wont even start with the driving skill I bear witness to with regard to that demographic but I suspect it (or lack of) will not undermine my theory...