Economical Petrol? Convince me not to go the diesel route..
Discussion
I've been looking for an economical car for a few weeks now and had decided that a S60/V70 D5 was for me, but I'm starting to have doubts now with regards to a diesel, due to the amount of miles I do (around 10k-12k/annum). Basically, my criteria is:
> Up to £3k
> Must be able to seat 4 adults and a dog (occasionally) in comfort (no 2 seater sports cars
)
> Daily trips to and from work will be a 14 mile round trip along A and B roads
> Odd case of motorway driving along with a 50 mile trip around the Peak District once a week
> 35mpg+ on the short journey to and from work
> Reliable
> Ideally not French (been there already)
I'm not really that clued up on economical petrol cars, as all my past petrol cars have been purchased because I liked the car and wasn't worried about the economy!
Or should I stick with buying a Volvo D5?
> Up to £3k
> Must be able to seat 4 adults and a dog (occasionally) in comfort (no 2 seater sports cars
)> Daily trips to and from work will be a 14 mile round trip along A and B roads
> Odd case of motorway driving along with a 50 mile trip around the Peak District once a week
> 35mpg+ on the short journey to and from work
> Reliable
> Ideally not French (been there already)
I'm not really that clued up on economical petrol cars, as all my past petrol cars have been purchased because I liked the car and wasn't worried about the economy!
Or should I stick with buying a Volvo D5?
Edited by Woody3 on Thursday 10th November 14:52
The Crack Fox said:
I hate diesels, I've only ever owned one, a V70 D5. It was a really good all rounder actually, but I would have had a T5 if I were doing lower miles. 10k miles might not justify the extra costs for a diesel anyway.
I've driven many diesels over the years and have hated every single one... except for a V70. The one I drove was well specced and very comfy. Fairly refined too for a tractor ;-)I'd still choose a decent petrol car over one as the power delivery isn't something I could live with but if you really need to watch the mpg, then this gets my vote.
Argh...I should have said "35mpg+ on the short journey to and from work"
Apologies (edited first post now)
Some interesting ideas though
.
What engines are we talking about in the models mentioned (Focus & VRS)?
Apologies (edited first post now)
Some interesting ideas though
.What engines are we talking about in the models mentioned (Focus & VRS)?
Edited by Woody3 on Thursday 10th November 14:56
Edited by Woody3 on Thursday 10th November 14:57
...No car suggestions, just going to blast diesels a bit 
They sound AWFUL, no matter what people say with 335d's saying they dont sound bad....they do. Especially on tickover.
The economy may be good on a motorway, cruise etc but when you have some 'fun' in it, it will do no more mpg's than a petrol.
They sound s
t.
Black smoke from exhaust everytime you floor it (mostly older diesels but still)
Did i mention they sound st?
(i realise im probably going to get some hammer by for this)
They sound AWFUL, no matter what people say with 335d's saying they dont sound bad....they do. Especially on tickover.
The economy may be good on a motorway, cruise etc but when you have some 'fun' in it, it will do no more mpg's than a petrol.
They sound s
t. Black smoke from exhaust everytime you floor it (mostly older diesels but still)
Did i mention they sound s
t? (i realise im probably going to get some hammer by for this)
Diesels are great.
BUT having said that... if you only do 12k miles a year and your journey to work is SHORT, then you simply won't get the benefits of a diesel. Car won't get up to temperature on the drive to work, and that means DPF problems as well as poor economy. And diesel is 6p-8p a litre more than petrol.
Buy a small engined petrol car.
BUT having said that... if you only do 12k miles a year and your journey to work is SHORT, then you simply won't get the benefits of a diesel. Car won't get up to temperature on the drive to work, and that means DPF problems as well as poor economy. And diesel is 6p-8p a litre more than petrol.
Buy a small engined petrol car.
calibrax said:
Diesels are great.
BUT having said that... if you only do 12k miles a year and your journey to work is SHORT, then you simply won't get the benefits of a diesel. Car won't get up to temperature on the drive to work, and that means DPF problems as well as poor economy. And diesel is 6p-8p a litre more than petrol.
There will be no problem with the DPF as the D5's I'm looking at are to EuroIII, so they don't have the DPF.BUT having said that... if you only do 12k miles a year and your journey to work is SHORT, then you simply won't get the benefits of a diesel. Car won't get up to temperature on the drive to work, and that means DPF problems as well as poor economy. And diesel is 6p-8p a litre more than petrol.
Jandywa said:
No car suggestions, just going to blast diesels a bit
They sound AWFUL, no matter what people say with 335d's saying they dont sound bad....they do. Especially on tickover.
The economy may be good on a motorway, cruise etc but when you have some 'fun' in it, it will do no more mpg's than a petrol.
They sound st.
Where as all Petrols sound fantasticThey sound AWFUL, no matter what people say with 335d's saying they dont sound bad....they do. Especially on tickover.
The economy may be good on a motorway, cruise etc but when you have some 'fun' in it, it will do no more mpg's than a petrol.
They sound s
t. Oh no i forgot 90% of them sound s
t as wellif you wish to argue this point I have a Nissan Micra and a microphone and i'm not afraid to use it
Petrol is between 4 and 10p cheaper per litre!
Factor this into your MPG requirements
Diesel? Really? Don't swear at me!!!
Although D5's are good
ETA:
Had a C30 D3 the other day as a courtesy car from Volvo, went back showing an average of 27.5MPG
I get over that however I drive my S60, and that has a lovely sounding 5 cylinder Turbocharged Petrol Engine!!
Factor this into your MPG requirements
Diesel? Really? Don't swear at me!!!
Although D5's are good
ETA:
Had a C30 D3 the other day as a courtesy car from Volvo, went back showing an average of 27.5MPG
I get over that however I drive my S60, and that has a lovely sounding 5 cylinder Turbocharged Petrol Engine!!
Edited by Petrolhead_Rich on Thursday 10th November 18:53
Jandywa said:
No car suggestions, just going to blast diesels a bit
They sound AWFUL, no matter what people say with 335d's saying they dont sound bad....they do. Especially on tickover.
The economy may be good on a motorway, cruise etc but when you have some 'fun' in it, it will do no more mpg's than a petrol.
They sound st.
Black smoke from exhaust everytime you floor it (mostly older diesels but still)
Did i mention they sound st?
(i realise im probably going to get some hammer by for this)
Only the old ones? My 11 year old xud9 smokes less than a "modern" diesel.They sound AWFUL, no matter what people say with 335d's saying they dont sound bad....they do. Especially on tickover.
The economy may be good on a motorway, cruise etc but when you have some 'fun' in it, it will do no more mpg's than a petrol.
They sound s
t. Black smoke from exhaust everytime you floor it (mostly older diesels but still)
Did i mention they sound s
t? (i realise im probably going to get some hammer by for this)
OP toyota avensis? Dull but cheap and efficient
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