Talk me out of a Civic Type R
Talk me out of a Civic Type R
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Progressive

Original Poster:

1,288 posts

210 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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Currently drive an e46 318i and had it for 4 years. Fancy a change and nothing in the German lines really catch me eye.

I've seen a few nice examples of 'new shape' Type R's for under £10k which is my budget.

I do 300 mile round trip once per week and some local driving to boot. Around 1,500 miles per month.

Am I missing something or are them some great deals to be had? MPG is a concern to me but my old BMW doesn't exactly return great MPG.

Suggestions...

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

225 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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Its a FWD hatchback based on a car that is designed to take granny shopping with a chav following for the same money as a nice elise while having horrendous deprectiation

jon-

16,534 posts

237 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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Save some money, get the EP3. Better drivers car.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

211 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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Progressive said:
Currently drive an e46 318i and had it for 4 years. Fancy a change and nothing in the German lines really catch me eye.

I've seen a few nice examples of 'new shape' Type R's for under £10k which is my budget.

I do 300 mile round trip once per week and some local driving to boot. Around 1,500 miles per month.

Am I missing something or are them some great deals to be had? MPG is a concern to me but my old BMW doesn't exactly return great MPG.

Suggestions...
I'm not really a CTR fan tbh.

But if you want one, then surely you need to be looking at EP3's? The current shape looks huge and bobby and from what I've read everyone says it's a huge step down from the EP9 in the performance and driving arena.


Whether it's right for you or not....

Well they are ok on fuel, but not great. So if they are affordable, then it opens the potential for lots of other cars.

And at the end of the day, it's a fwd hatchback, a car designed primarily and 100% for it's packaging benefits.

Unless you really need the practicality of such a car I'd say you'd be better off looking at sports cars or coupes.


£10k gives you quite a chunk of money, so there really is no shortage in choice.

1500 miles/month is a fair few, and Parkers lists the Type R at 31mpg.

Which means HUGE choice.


But all depends what you want though....

Edited by 300bhp/ton on Friday 11th November 09:38

marcosgt

11,406 posts

197 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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All the Honda Fanboys hate it and say the previous model is better...

Not sure if that is in its favour or against it biggrin

As a practical, good looking (I think) hatchback it's a winner, but I hear it's got a stupidly hard ride.

Oh, and old people drive Hondas biggrin

Any help?

M.

Lippy Kid

4,477 posts

196 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
But if you want one, then surely you need to be looking at EP9's? The current shape looks huge and bobby and from what I've read everyone says it's a huge step down from the EP9 in the performance and driving arena.
EK9/EP3

rb5er

11,657 posts

193 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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They are not frugal. Might as well have a focus st which is better, as is a golf gti or a megane r26 etc etc

jet_noise

5,968 posts

203 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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Dear Progressive,

how about an ATR instead?
Cheap as chips (/leathery levantine), rarer, classier, (slightly) more subtle,

regards,
Jet

SBN

1,030 posts

173 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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10k would get you any of the following MK5 GTI, Mk2 Cupra, M3, Focus ST, Megane 225, R32 all of which are considered great hot hatches/coupes

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

211 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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Lippy Kid said:
EK9/EP3
lol, meant ep3 (have fixed), but kept thinking ek9 and my fingers got fuddled... laugh

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

211 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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furrywoolyhatuk

682 posts

175 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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Integra?

5lab

1,788 posts

217 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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accord type r's are much older aren't they? around 99 plate?

'best hot hatch for 10k' - if you're doing a 300 mile round trip I'd look at the golf as well, would seem to be a nicer place to sit

matt-ITR

892 posts

210 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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I'm in the market for a similar car, test drove one recently and I was disappointed. Not saying it is a bad car and it might be right for you, but it didn't have the magic or excitement that my old DC2 had. Take one for a spin and try it first, I think you will either love it or hate it.

Currently looking at Megane R26's, felt it was more exciting to drive.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

239 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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No.

Buy it.

HTH smile

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

188 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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Isn't it nice when things just work?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

211 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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5lab said:
accord type r's are much older aren't they? around 99 plate?

'best hot hatch for 10k' - if you're doing a 300 mile round trip I'd look at the golf as well, would seem to be a nicer place to sit
But pretty pointless if you don't actually need 5 seats, a boot and a vehicle that looks like an MPV crossed with a van.


Surely for £10k even obvious alternatives like:

3.0 V6 X-Type
E46 330i
130i
Mazda 6 MPS

Would be more comfy options.


If they want more sporty:

-VX220
-DC5 ITR
-WRX
-Z4
-S2k


Mix of the two:

-Crossfire SRT-6 supercharged
-Audi TT (V6 or 225)

Unlight

486 posts

201 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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You'll get no helpful advice re the FN2 from the most of the members here, so thought I would chip in (I've owned one for nearly 3 years/35k)

- Economy - completely depends on how you drive it. Expect 35-38mpg on a long 300 mile run. Around 28-32mpg general day to day mixed use, less if using it solely in town. I usually get around 280-300 miles out of a tank, which I've yet to get more than 45litres into from when the light comes on.

- Make sure you get a GT model. Comes with dual zone climate, cruise control, auto lights, folding mirrors etc. If you can get one with the Sat Nav, even better.

- Build quality is very good, and is a far superior place to be than in the equivalent Octavia, Leon or Focus. Bit of a quirky layout, but I like it.

- Reasonable servicing prices, even at Honda.

- It's been very reliable to me, needing nothing but tyres/servicing. Few little interior rattles/squeaks but can usually be easily solved.

- Expect a harsh ride quality. Not much of a problem on motorways, but slightly tiring on small country roads. If ride quality is a concern, don't go for the optional 19" Rage alloys.

- Surprisingly practical. Quite a large boot, and the seats fold completely flat so you can fit quite a lot in there.

- 10k should get you a later model with the LSD/Xenons - keep an eye out. Otherwise you may as well spend 7k on a tidy 07 model.

Don't listen to the people who constantly moan that the EP3 is better (opinion usually based on a Top Gear review - funny how the Top Gear mag raved about it!). I'd hazard a guess that 99% of the time, you won't notice any difference.

Overall, its an enjoyable practical hatch that really doesn't deserve the slating it gets from the so-called "experts". Any more questions feel free to ask.

Edited by Unlight on Friday 11th November 10:00

Unlight

486 posts

201 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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Forgot to add - the only other competitors I would consider :

Golf GTi. Quite sober in comparison, and you'll get an older one with higher miles for the same money, but it's a great all rounder.

BMW 130i. Great rear wheel drive car, surprisingly frugal as well. Just as harsh a ride as the civic though.

Edited by Unlight on Friday 11th November 10:03

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

239 months

Friday 11th November 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
1500 miles/month is a fair few, and Parkers lists the Type R at 31mpg.
IME;

  • On a long run (motorways/DC/70mph) it will do 38+mpg
  • On a short run it might do 30mpg
  • On a short run it will do 25mpg if driven properly (once warmed up) hehe