Banning smoking in cars (excludes wheelspins etc...)
Banning smoking in cars (excludes wheelspins etc...)
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PIGINAWIG

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2,339 posts

186 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Probably old news......?

Just heard on the wireless that the government are proposing a ban on smoking in cars/vehicles. I smoke and often light up in the car, especially on dull motorway drives. In no way does it distract me from driving and hasn't caused a problem in the past (apart from health implications) that I know of....

I will always light up in the car, ban or no ban. I can understand the smoking ban in pubs, restaurants and elsewhere, but in the confines of my vehicle I'll continue to have smoke. And yes - I do put my butts in the ashtray!

What else can we outlaw?

redgriff500

28,982 posts

284 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Well it's more likely to occupy your hands and cause a crash than eating a Mars bar and that's already banned.

When it gets dropped into your lap / blown back into the rear seats the panic / smoke / fire is very distracting too and I've seen a lot of burnt seats over the years.

It's also very easy to spot / police / fine so I'm actually surprised they haven't done it before.

Personally I think we should have more freedom and that there are a hell of a lot of better things to worry about.

MrGman

1,658 posts

227 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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PIGINAWIG said:
Probably old news......?

Just heard on the wireless that the government are proposing a ban on smoking in cars/vehicles. I smoke and often light up in the car, especially on dull motorway drives. In no way does it distract me from driving and hasn't caused a problem in the past (apart from health implications) that I know of....

I will always light up in the car, ban or no ban. I can understand the smoking ban in pubs, restaurants and elsewhere, but in the confines of my vehicle I'll continue to have smoke. And yes - I do put my butts in the ashtray!

What else can we outlaw?
Maybe it doesn't distract you but i've seen it distract plenty of other people whilst driving. I think this should have been banned along with using a mobile whilst driving IMO.

juan king

1,093 posts

210 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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It can only be a good thing imo. I don't know why It hasn't been banned before now!

attym3

7,259 posts

189 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Smoking on your own in the car, gimme a break, if you want to kill yourself let it be.
Smoking with kids in the car on the other hand, should have been banned a long time ago.

PIGINAWIG

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2,339 posts

186 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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It may distract me, but it's yet to cause me any concerns - I fully support the phone ban and it's one of my 'pet hates' on the road and it's flouted beyond belief.

If banning smoking in the car does carry points/fine then I'll cease from doing it as I value my licence. I can see issues with policing it though. Easy money to be made.


PIGINAWIG

Original Poster:

2,339 posts

186 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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attym3 said:
Smoking on your own in the car, gimme a break, if you want to kill yourself let it be.
Smoking with kids in the car on the other hand, should have been banned a long time ago.
You're right - I don't have any and would only smoke with passengers that are ok with it.

mrtwisty

3,057 posts

186 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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This has actually come about due to lobbying from the BMC - purely a public health issue I think.

I can understand the thought process behind banning smoking in cars with children on board, but when its just the smoker in the car...? Seems very OTT to me.


jagnet

4,359 posts

223 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Reading the BBC's take on it it doesn't sound like the Government are proposing anything of the sort. It seems to be the BMA suggesting it on health grounds to protect others from secondhand smoke. So despite most journeys involving no passengers they want to ban it anyway?

BBC said:
A spokesman for the Department of Health in England said: "We do not believe that legislation is the most effective way to encourage people to change their behaviour."

He said instead a marketing campaign would be launched in the spring which would focus on the dangers of smoking in the home and car.
Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15744352

Sounds like a non-story to me.

PIGINAWIG

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2,339 posts

186 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Apologies - just heard a spokesperson on the radio and assumed it was going through the usual avenues to ban it - or consider it. It may well be a non starter.

mattyn1

6,780 posts

176 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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I am on day eight of my own latest giving up smoking campaign, so therefore in a typical ex-smoker self righteous manner I fully support the ban.

smile

attym3

7,259 posts

189 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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juan king said:
It can only be a good thing imo. I don't know why It hasn't been banned before now!
rolleyes

Yeah, think of all the problems it doesn't cause. There's nothing more important that needs sorting.

Maximum Bobs

3,762 posts

239 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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MrGman said:
PIGINAWIG said:
Probably old news......?

Just heard on the wireless that the government are proposing a ban on smoking in cars/vehicles. I smoke and often light up in the car, especially on dull motorway drives. In no way does it distract me from driving and hasn't caused a problem in the past (apart from health implications) that I know of....

I will always light up in the car, ban or no ban. I can understand the smoking ban in pubs, restaurants and elsewhere, but in the confines of my vehicle I'll continue to have smoke. And yes - I do put my butts in the ashtray!

What else can we outlaw?
Maybe it doesn't distract you but i've seen it distract plenty of other people whilst driving. I think this should have been banned along with using a mobile whilst driving IMO.
Meh I'll still smoke in my vehicles regardless of a ban if one is ever introduced. They should ban scrolling through menus to find your favourite track or talking to passengers, far more dangerous.

PIGINAWIG

Original Poster:

2,339 posts

186 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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mattyn1 said:
I am on day eight of my own latest giving up smoking campaign, so therefore in a typical ex-smoker self righteous manner I fully support the ban.

smile
Good luck with it chap - I've never tried to quit - if this does become 'outlawed' I'll be giving it a bash as well.

Maximum Bobs

3,762 posts

239 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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jagnet said:
Reading the BBC's take on it it doesn't sound like the Government are proposing anything of the sort.
I didn't think it would ever happen but wasn't sure. Thanks for confirming what I thought.

twoblacklines

1,575 posts

182 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Whats funny is for the last 2 years I thought this WAS illegal, I do smoke in my car, and have been very shifty around Police/paranoid when one was following me and i was smoking.

Then I happened to ask an Officer during a "routine stop check" and he told me its not illegal.


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attym3

7,259 posts

189 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Passengers
Radio
Sat nav
Heater controls
Changing gear
Steering
Talking
Breathing

Just a list of other "distracting" things. Which ones next?

Maximum Bobs

3,762 posts

239 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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twoblacklines said:
Whats funny is for the last 2 years I thought this WAS illegal, I do smoke in my car, and have been very shifty around Police/paranoid when one was following me and i was smoking.

Then I happened to ask an Officer during a "routine stop check" and he told me its not illegal.


fail
My mum thought the same & started criticising me for smoking on one of the rare occasions she was in my van. She still didn't believe me when I told her it was only illegal in Co. owned vehicles etc.

jagnet

4,359 posts

223 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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Maximum Bobs said:
I didn't think it would ever happen but wasn't sure. Thanks for confirming what I thought.
Sounds like a typical bit of lazy radio journalism - take a story, condense it into a snappy soundbite to grab attention and ignore the important details.

If anything it does show a refreshing change that the Government aren't jumping on the ban it bandwagon. After Labour's nanny state approach to protecting us from ourselves with legislation it's quite nice to be treated as an adult.

Personally I'd like the BMA to focus on more important things, such as hospital-acquired infection rates. I do wonder, if smoking in cars was banned, whether having our roads filled with agitated drivers craving for a cigarette would be a good thing? I know from experience, that can be far more distracting than actually having a cigarette.

PIGINAWIG

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2,339 posts

186 months

Wednesday 16th November 2011
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jagnet said:
Sounds like a typical bit of lazy radio journalism - take a story, condense it into a snappy soundbite to grab attention and ignore the important details.

If anything it does show a refreshing change that the Government aren't jumping on the ban it bandwagon. After Labour's nanny state approach to protecting us from ourselves with legislation it's quite nice to be treated as an adult.

Personally I'd like the BMA to focus on more important things, such as hospital-acquired infection rates. I do wonder, if smoking in cars was banned, whether having our roads filled with agitated drivers craving for a cigarette would be a good thing? I know from experience, that can be far more distracting than actually having a cigarette.
Good post fella.