How much have you offered under the asking price
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and been accepted?
Just interested as I am keeping an eye out for a cheap Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 4 door and see plenty on the dealer's websites that seem to be there week after week.
So if it's advertised at £15k, how cheeky would it be to walk in and offer £12k cash.
Tell us your deals and about your bargaining prowess.
Just interested as I am keeping an eye out for a cheap Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 4 door and see plenty on the dealer's websites that seem to be there week after week.
So if it's advertised at £15k, how cheeky would it be to walk in and offer £12k cash.
Tell us your deals and about your bargaining prowess.
croyde said:
and been accepted?
Just interested as I am keeping an eye out for a cheap Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 4 door and see plenty on the dealer's websites that seem to be there week after week.
So if it's advertised at £15k, how cheeky would it be to walk in and offer £12k cash.
Tell us your deals and about your bargaining prowess.
In my experiance with car dealler's, they wouldnt giv you any sort of customer service after that, within minutes the whole dealership would know to avoid you and you would forever be known as a dick, unless the manager really wants it gone, but their margin will probably be about £1500-£2000, so I'd say get a CAP value, add in a warranty cost of about £180 plus valleting of £60 and thats what you should aim for as its what the dealer will sell for if he is desperate, it may also be worth waiting a week so you are almost at month end, or even better untill the end of the year, as you then have monthly, quarterly and yearly targets to be met.Just interested as I am keeping an eye out for a cheap Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 4 door and see plenty on the dealer's websites that seem to be there week after week.
So if it's advertised at £15k, how cheeky would it be to walk in and offer £12k cash.
Tell us your deals and about your bargaining prowess.
my 2p
Depends on a lot of factors e.g.
How many boxes the car ticks
How desperate I am
How keenly its priced in the first place
The most I've offered under the advert price was £400 off a £2200 Rover 214GSi. He almost bit my hand off which worried me a little but it turned out to be a good car.
How many boxes the car ticks
How desperate I am
How keenly its priced in the first place
The most I've offered under the advert price was £400 off a £2200 Rover 214GSi. He almost bit my hand off which worried me a little but it turned out to be a good car.
shovelheadrob said:
What's the worst that can happen? I've bought a few cars over the years with "cheeky" offers. I usually make an offer, leave my number, wait for phone to ring. Usually it doesn't but every now & then you get lucky.
this would be my way also, perfectly reasonable and respectful, sometimes people (esp. private sellers) just want to avoid hassle and settle for a lower offer with a genuine buyer, no harm in leaving an offer and saying that they can get back to you in the next 1-2 weeks if they are interested, There's not many of them around, hardly surprising if you've ever driven one, so it will be difficult for them to replace for stock.
If it's out of manufacturers warranty the cost to them for a year is about £500 which is a fair chunk of their margin which is probably less than £2,000 to start off with.
As others have said though - you've got nothing to lose.
We get silly offers all the time. It's part of the job.
If it's out of manufacturers warranty the cost to them for a year is about £500 which is a fair chunk of their margin which is probably less than £2,000 to start off with.
As others have said though - you've got nothing to lose.
We get silly offers all the time. It's part of the job.
Last week bought a car that was listed at £4695. The seller was a small dealer trading next door to a petrol station.
I offered £4k cash, he said 4250 and we shook hands.
Last year I bought a car that was listed at £16000. It was for sale at a main dealer.
I offered £14000 and a deal was struck at £14600.
I know these are not fantastic savings, but I tend to go for cars with FSH, clean and tidy with little or no work need doing.
I offered £4k cash, he said 4250 and we shook hands.
Last year I bought a car that was listed at £16000. It was for sale at a main dealer.
I offered £14000 and a deal was struck at £14600.
I know these are not fantastic savings, but I tend to go for cars with FSH, clean and tidy with little or no work need doing.
Thanks for all your replies. Have had my eye on a Wrangler as a family workhorse that can cart my gear around and seemingly cheap to look after as there are no real frills.
I have driven some and I liked it's back to my youth style of driving and it'll stop me driving like a nutter. Although I did prefer the non UK 3.8L petrol.
A pipe dream unless I manage to get one real cheap and as they don't seem much liked and the fact that they sit on the forecourt for ages, I thought that it would be easy, but I have noticed that the long term parking lot have actually put their prices up recently.
Recession, what recession!
I met a bloke when I was camping with the kids last August who had a heavily modified 2009 model which he said he got new for £16k as the dealer was desperate to get rid. Not bad for a car that would have been around £26k list at the time and there is a new model out now with a much better interior and lower CO2 so tax is half the price.
Thought it might drop the prices of the pre 2011 model down a bit but it's not looking that way.
I have also been following the prices of various late 60s and early 70s US muscle cars which seem to stay for sale for ages.
Looks like our current housing market where the seller believes it's worth 'x' but all the buyers will only buy at (x - % x many) = price they are willing to pay thus stalemate.
I have driven some and I liked it's back to my youth style of driving and it'll stop me driving like a nutter. Although I did prefer the non UK 3.8L petrol.
A pipe dream unless I manage to get one real cheap and as they don't seem much liked and the fact that they sit on the forecourt for ages, I thought that it would be easy, but I have noticed that the long term parking lot have actually put their prices up recently.
Recession, what recession!
I met a bloke when I was camping with the kids last August who had a heavily modified 2009 model which he said he got new for £16k as the dealer was desperate to get rid. Not bad for a car that would have been around £26k list at the time and there is a new model out now with a much better interior and lower CO2 so tax is half the price.
Thought it might drop the prices of the pre 2011 model down a bit but it's not looking that way.
I have also been following the prices of various late 60s and early 70s US muscle cars which seem to stay for sale for ages.
Looks like our current housing market where the seller believes it's worth 'x' but all the buyers will only buy at (x - % x many) = price they are willing to pay thus stalemate.
Years ago I bought a Cavalier SRi, advertised for £2100, drove it away for £1100. Sold it eighteen months later for £1100. My old man had been tracking a Maserati Bi-Turbo for about a year, it passed through various dealers on a sale or return basis, asking £10k. Finally went back to owner who had dropped the price to £7,500, I felt embarassed when the old man pulled out £3300 in cash, which is what he purchased it for.
If your prepared to walk away from a car, then you can try some cheeky bids, the worst they can say is no. Usually only works with private sellers, the trade aren't so keen to drop the price in my experience.
If your prepared to walk away from a car, then you can try some cheeky bids, the worst they can say is no. Usually only works with private sellers, the trade aren't so keen to drop the price in my experience.
shovelheadrob said:
Have you never watched Mike Brewer in action, or there was a program with Dominic Littlewood where they would send a punter in to buy a car from a dealer while he would feed them what to say.
Yeah 
I am basing all of this on Mike Brewer getting that Chevy Bel Air but 4 door saloon for $6k when the guy had it advertised for $12k. croyde said:
I met a bloke when I was camping with the kids last August who had a heavily modified 2009 model which he said he got new for £16k as the dealer was desperate to get rid.
Several Jeep dealers went bust around that time so it's possible.Mate of mine got a top spec demo Touareg from a VW dealer for £20K cash in late 2008 and the dealer went bust shortly afterwards. He was miffed as he called their bluff when he went back and told them he could only raise £18K and they wouldn't take it so he had to pay the £20K.
My first car in percentage terms was a great deal. A rusty Volvo 343 that I did not want. I was being put under pressure as folks were complaining about me using my mothers car.
Screen price £400. Purchase price £225 with some tax and test. I'd offered £200, he said no. Said me fair enough. He literally ran to the car to stop me going.
Sadly it really was a rust bucket, and I discovered a few months later that it had no antifreeze in the coolant. Did it no good that at all.
Screen price £400. Purchase price £225 with some tax and test. I'd offered £200, he said no. Said me fair enough. He literally ran to the car to stop me going.
Sadly it really was a rust bucket, and I discovered a few months later that it had no antifreeze in the coolant. Did it no good that at all.
croyde said:
I have driven some and I liked it's back to my youth style of driving and it'll stop me driving like a nutter. Although I did prefer the non UK 3.8L petrol.
I met a bloke when I was camping with the kids last August who had a heavily modified 2009 model which he said he got new for £16k as the dealer was desperate to get rid. Not bad for a car that would have been around £26k list at the time and there is a new model out now with a much better interior and lower CO2 so tax is half the price.
SWB Rubicon is a petrol and much better to drive.I met a bloke when I was camping with the kids last August who had a heavily modified 2009 model which he said he got new for £16k as the dealer was desperate to get rid. Not bad for a car that would have been around £26k list at the time and there is a new model out now with a much better interior and lower CO2 so tax is half the price.
The deal that guy got on the new one would've been subsidised by Jeep UK and wouldn't have been something the dealer could afford to do on their own.
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