Am I out of order?
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ok so I live in a very small town with a firly big university in - Hatfield. I live exactly between the two parts of the university next to the Galleria (a large shopping centre).
None of the houses in our row have driveways but we have public parking bays directly infront of our houses. My problem is that they are constantly full of students and shoppers.
Now I know that they are public parking spaces, and I know that people parking there pay their car tax etc etc, but with both the uni and the Galleria having massive car parks (univeristy carpark being free, although a little way from campus but with a shuttle bus going every 5 mins, the Galleria charging for people to park there) am I being a d
head pointing these car parks out to people who park outside my house?
When I do inform people that there are car parks, and I only do this if I'm leaving the house to go out somewhere or I've just parked up three streets away and am returning home, 9 out of 10 times I recieve a tirade of abuse. The students being the worst - some of the language used against me and my gf is disgusting! I don't mind having to park a few streets away, although it means I need to go and move the car at a later time when a space becomes free. However for my partner trying to get the shopping and my daughter and ,in a few weeks when my next child is due, a new born baby back home from streets away is a real inconvienience.
Anyway question is, am I in the right to confront the people who park there for the uni and the shopping centre asking them to move or am I being a dick?
None of the houses in our row have driveways but we have public parking bays directly infront of our houses. My problem is that they are constantly full of students and shoppers.
Now I know that they are public parking spaces, and I know that people parking there pay their car tax etc etc, but with both the uni and the Galleria having massive car parks (univeristy carpark being free, although a little way from campus but with a shuttle bus going every 5 mins, the Galleria charging for people to park there) am I being a d
head pointing these car parks out to people who park outside my house?When I do inform people that there are car parks, and I only do this if I'm leaving the house to go out somewhere or I've just parked up three streets away and am returning home, 9 out of 10 times I recieve a tirade of abuse. The students being the worst - some of the language used against me and my gf is disgusting! I don't mind having to park a few streets away, although it means I need to go and move the car at a later time when a space becomes free. However for my partner trying to get the shopping and my daughter and ,in a few weeks when my next child is due, a new born baby back home from streets away is a real inconvienience.
Anyway question is, am I in the right to confront the people who park there for the uni and the shopping centre asking them to move or am I being a dick?
If it isn't resident parking only they are doing nothing wrong. Even though it is annoying for you 
Frik said:
Maybe you need to ask the council for the spaces to be residents permit bays.
This.If you can prove that people are ignoring the car parks (pay to park I assume) and parking in residential streets instead, then the coucil may well be interested in setting up a permit scheme.
Yes I know I have no more right, only a vain hope people might consider people who live there! And no I don't confront people, I usualy go up to them, tell them there are carparks available to them and how annoying it is for us. The response to this not usually so considered.... Anyhow, I only tell them this once I've parked up elsewhere or am leaving so it's never saying 'I want to park there you better move'
We've asked the council many many times for residents only parking but we are ignored. My girlfriend wrote a letter to them once, the reply was that residents parking is set by central government so it was out of their hands!!
We've asked the council many many times for residents only parking but we are ignored. My girlfriend wrote a letter to them once, the reply was that residents parking is set by central government so it was out of their hands!!
It does annoy me when people moan about other people parking on the road directly outside their house. Especially when it's a neighbour of theirs! As if they have a special hold over that piece of road?
Also, you bought the house knowing that it didn't have a drive.
I do understand your frustration though. Bloody students...
You could apply to council to make it a "permit holders only" area?
Also, you bought the house knowing that it didn't have a drive.
I do understand your frustration though. Bloody students...
You could apply to council to make it a "permit holders only" area?Put it another way - say you're visiting someone and have a choice, either park on their road outside someone else's house, or in a multistorey car park that is going to cost you money and a longer walk....
You could be community spirited and start a campaign to get the council to make it residents parking only. There is a chance that if the situation is very bad, you be recognised as a local hero and a statue put up in your honour. There is an equal chance of derision and social rejection on the basis that you reside somewhere without allocated parking, which is ultimately a choice that was made at a point in time by every resident on said street.
You could be community spirited and start a campaign to get the council to make it residents parking only. There is a chance that if the situation is very bad, you be recognised as a local hero and a statue put up in your honour. There is an equal chance of derision and social rejection on the basis that you reside somewhere without allocated parking, which is ultimately a choice that was made at a point in time by every resident on said street.
Caulkhead said:
Was the situation you describe very similar when you chose to live there or have they built the university and shopping centre after you moved in?
I suspect it's the former and that maybe you should've chosen to live elsewhere?
Well when I moved in I was on my own, with only the one car so it wasn't so much of an issue really. And no the university wasn't so large (I think they we're in the middle of building the second campus when I moved in). Also, the parking for the Galleria was free, they only started charging for it a few years ago. And yes, we would dearly like to move now, however property is so expensive we don't have the money for this.I suspect it's the former and that maybe you should've chosen to live elsewhere?
Well you asked for it!!! Lol.
I'd say just live with it. I's happening, and is always gonna happen as long as you live there. Don't get yourself worked up about it and life will seem so much easier. You might even run the risk of having your own car vandalised by one of the rude students after a verbal slagging match??
I am in a similar situation, although it's my neighbours that take up all the spaces! Lol. Over the hedge to one side, the family have 5 cars!! Over the hedge to the opposite side, they have 4 cars. It's a short street, with no off street parking, and I reglarly have to park somewhere else. It used to bother me, but I don't let it any more. Getting annoyed isn't worth the agro IMHO.
(Although I do have a quiet curse to myself if it's pissing down!! Lol).
I'd say just live with it. I's happening, and is always gonna happen as long as you live there. Don't get yourself worked up about it and life will seem so much easier. You might even run the risk of having your own car vandalised by one of the rude students after a verbal slagging match??
I am in a similar situation, although it's my neighbours that take up all the spaces! Lol. Over the hedge to one side, the family have 5 cars!! Over the hedge to the opposite side, they have 4 cars. It's a short street, with no off street parking, and I reglarly have to park somewhere else. It used to bother me, but I don't let it any more. Getting annoyed isn't worth the agro IMHO.
(Although I do have a quiet curse to myself if it's pissing down!! Lol).
80sboy said:
It does annoy me when people moan about other people parking on the road directly outside their house. Especially when it's a neighbour of theirs! As if they have a special hold over that piece of road?
Also, you bought the house knowing that it didn't have a drive.
I do understand your frustration though. Bloody students... You could apply to council to make it a "permit holders only" area?
Of course we don't ask the neighbours to move! Also, you bought the house knowing that it didn't have a drive.
I do understand your frustration though. Bloody students...
You could apply to council to make it a "permit holders only" area?
And for the people visiting them there should never be a problem....there's about 5 cars which 'live' on our bit of the street and about 10 spaces!chrisp84 said:
We've asked the council many many times for residents only parking but we are ignored. My girlfriend wrote a letter to them once, the reply was that residents parking is set by central government so it was out of their hands!!
That's bks - the council as highway authority can make a Traffic Regulation Order to introduce a residents parking scheme. There is a process to go through that allows objections etc, but it's for the Council to decide, not central government.BUT - beware what you ask for. If they introduce a residents scheme there will have to be permits, which will probably be limited to one or two per house. The permits will have to be car-specific (ie with the reg numbers on). I have seen some where you have to prove ownership of the vehicle the permit has to go on, and that can be difficult for company cars etc. Some permit schemes will exclude vans and other commercials. Provision for visitors might become extremely limited.
It often doesn't take long for people to realise that they were better off the way things were... and the council won't revoke the order so they are stuck with it.
I have a driveway but there is a bay right outside my house. My gf likes to park there when free but it's not mine so as long as my drive is not being blocked, I don't take offence if someone visiting a neighbour parks there. Unfortunately, as mentioned, if it's not designated parking, it's not yours.
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