Pagid or EBC? Advice and experiences please.

[LuckyNumber7]

My e46 m3cs is in need of new discs and pads all round and after the brake fade I experienced at Bedford last year though I'd take the opp to upgrade.

The car is used on the roads 95% of the time but I will be visiting Bedford and the 'ring again next year, 3/4 hoons around wales and maybe spa too! so I need a road biased pad that can take some abuse and not squeal.

So far I've narrowed it down to either Pagid RS421 (black) or EBC yellow stuff and I'll stick to OEM discs as my car is still under warranty.

Has anyone experienced both..or used either on a heavy quick car like an M3?

[VR6 Turbo]

Pagid's are really really good. and EBC are good also, never run Yellows but had Reds in my Z4.

And EBC have changed there compounds, so all the guy's that say there st and will kill you, are correct but they have sorted it out now. in fact the let a few PHers test them for free I think.


VR

Edit: Ill be buying Pagid's next time round If they do some for my caliper's

[Some Gump]

Pagid - used for years, including competition.
EBC - never used, but what i've read on forums is rarely good.

[80sboy]

Pagid are very good, OEM on many cars I think.

I've heard very mixed reviews on EBC, personally I'd avoid them.

Eurocarparts always seem to be the cheapest for this sort of thing. Google a discount code too, you might get 20% off web price if you're lucky.

[rallycross]

Pagid are expensive but work very well.


Last set I put on an Evo were fine on track but I never got them to stop squeeling on the road in light use was annoying.

Carbon Lorraine good.

Carbo tech XP10 good and reasobable price.
http://www.carbotech-europe.com/


Ferrodo Ds2500 good road and track;
http://www.carbotech-europe.com/

[V8mate]

I found my E36 to be too heavy for Yellowstuff pads. Have sinced moved to Bluestuff NDX and they're great. Track-oriented pad but work perfectly from stone cold. Low dust too.

[Arun_D]

Pagid. Easily.

[Sea Demon]

Have EBC Yellows on my E36 track car so its fairly light - always have plenty of bite, never faded on me and last well - done 2 open pit lane days on them so far and they look hardly used.

EBC greens though on the other hand... dont even bother.

[Fat Audi 80]

I have EBC Yellowstuff on the front of my Audi S2 and they are vast improvement over standard pads for fast road driving.

[Tyson1980]

Got Pagid on my VRS and Z4.

Great pads for the money

[LuckyNumber7]

Thanks for the replies gents. It looks like the votes are leaning toward pagids.
What sort of brake dust are people experiencing? And what is it that causes the squeal?......I'm really keen to avoid this!

[rallycross]

Not sure about the squeal in theory new shims and copper paste then you should have no squeal but I never could get rid of it on 2 evo's and an escort cosworth using pagid and ferodo ds, the track/'road pads were noisy in normal road use which in slow commuting traffic was almost embarrassing.

Tried carbo tech and carbon lorraine on the racing cars and they were great but don't know how they would be on the road.

Mintex 1144 is also a safe bet on road/track decent price, generates loads of brake dust which if you don't clean off gets stuck to the alloys.