ST220 no S/H ! how much do knock of list price

[bluebear]

Hi I'm currently looking at a 53 plate ST220 on 85k with the last 5 mots to back up mileage. But he has lost the service book. Says it was done at various independents over the years. So if i take the risk the seller is inviting offers ? how do you price a car with no history. Or do you just walk away. Is a bargain to be had.

[Rollcage]

He's got to be prepared to take a hit then, hasn't he. Depends if the car is priced appropriately.

[anonymous-user]

Does he have any receipts? If not I'd be tempted to walk, it's an unnnecessary risk when there are a fair few cheap-ish ones around (prices have bombed over the last 12-18 months).

[philmots]

Could be very genuine to be honest... When does he last claim it was serviced? How mucky is the oil? As that's the main thing... Any invoices?

Plugs will be due at this age/miles and it's a bit of an awkward job.

If its a 3.5k price I'd be wanting it for 2750 if it otherwise looks well cared for

[rallycross]

It's quite an old / cheaper car anyway so it's not going to be a massive difference, if he holds out for a strong price eventually someone who is not too fussy/ not too switched on about cars will just buy it anyway.

No service book almost certainly means it's been clocked at some point, maybe damaged and clocked?
Plenty of Mondeo's reached 100,000 miles buy the time of their first Mot.

It's still worth buying if it's really cheap compared to similar examples with fsh but plenty of cars to chose from why buy one with an unknown history?

Edited by rallycross on Sunday 27th November 09:51

[Magic919]

They are too common and inexpensive for it to be worth a gamble. I'd jog on.

[jonnydm]

Last 5 MOTs is surely all of them, assuming that its an 04 '53 plate. If not, all MOT history is available online for any car. The basic mechanical checks - oil etc. - one would do even if the history was present. IMO a car shouldn't be discounted due to lack of history, its just something to factor into price as the OP says. This is assuming that the car seems OK as does the vendor. I'd be looking for around £1k off as I was advised when buying a car sans history. Looking at ST220s of this vintage, this should make it under £2.5k

[a_bread]

If you drive this one and a few others, you might be able to tell by the tightness / looseness if it's done a ridiculous mileage.

[bluebear]

£2250 is the price we seem to both be happy with. Oil is good a nice honey shade. He has no invoces says all the stuff like that was in the folder he lost

[wolf1]

Funny how many sellers lose the service records and invoices just before they sell a car

[philmots]

bluebear said:

£2250 is the price we seem to both be happy with. Oil is good a nice honey shade. He has no invoces says all the stuff like that was in the folder he lost

Well if it's a honey shade it can't be that old. So has clearly recieved attention at some point.

If all the old MOT's add up it should be fine, get it bought (specially at that price)

If it's worth nothing in 3 years you've not done bad!

[bluebear]

philmots said:

bluebear said:

£2250 is the price we seem to both be happy with. Oil is good a nice honey shade. He has no invoces says all the stuff like that was in the folder he lost

Well if it's a honey shade it can't be that old. So has clearly recieved attention at some point.

If all the old MOT's add up it should be fine, get it bought (specially at that price)

If it's worth nothing in 3 years you've not done bad!

this was my thoughts. there is enough crash damaged ones about that getting a replacement engine should only be about 1k. saved that on the book price