Company Car and someone else driving it?
Company Car and someone else driving it?
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classicc

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75 posts

182 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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This is the first company car I have had, so don't really know the rules.

It appears if things are not working quite right, it is best not to say. And most people think if you dent it, better sooner rather than later. So it appears that abuse of the car is a given.

Over Christmas I have a lot of driving to do. Can My Son/Sister in law drive the car?

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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ask your Fleet Manager / HR / Line Manager

Funk

27,652 posts

238 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Speak to your company or fleet department. They'll usually add whomever you require to their policy, allowing them to drive your company car on the company insurance.

A couple of things:

1) the company may exclude drivers who have certain endorsements eg. 6+ points or drink-drive

2) if someone says they're insured to drive as their policy covers them for other vehicles 3rd party, this does NOT apply to company cars - they are allowed to drive a vehicle with the consent of the owner, and as a company car driver you are not the owner, and thus not in a position to grant consent.

As I say, your first port of call should be whoever sorts out cars for your company. Your designated drivers will probably need to fill in a few forms and provide a copy of their licence as proof of entitlement to drive/endorsements etc.

I know our company also checks with the DVLA to ensure the licence isn't revoked etc.

Astra Dan

1,910 posts

213 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Mate drives his dad's company car as it says "Anyone with the policyholder's permission" on the insurance certificate.

williamp

20,392 posts

302 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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As above- usuall its not a problem as long as they know, as the named person can be added to the insurance. Dont risk it without checking first, however as its at their discretion and you might be in all sorts of problems if/when they find out

IrrElephant

34,775 posts

189 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Anyone is allowed to drive my company car as long as I am in the car with them. You need to check first, get it in writing!

classicc

Original Poster:

75 posts

182 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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As I am new, I didn't really want to ask the wrong questions. I kind of feel like I am taking the piss out of the car. but would make it easier for xmas.

Funk

27,652 posts

238 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Astra Dan said:
Mate drives his dad's company car as it says "Anyone with the policyholder's permission" on the insurance certificate.
I would double-check that as your mate's dad is not the policyholder. If someone else is driving a car owned by the company, they will normally use their own insurance cover (rather than risk the vehicle being covered 3rd-party only).

I really would get him to check, as it's possible he's driving it uninsured.

IrrElephant

34,775 posts

189 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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classicc said:
As I am new, I didn't really want to ask the wrong questions. I kind of feel like I am taking the piss out of the car. but would make it easier for xmas.
No harm in asking. Just say it in a 'I've never had a company car, what if my wife needs to drive me somewhere' kind of way smile

Chicharito

1,017 posts

180 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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My company restricts non-company drivers to partners who live at the same address.

classicc

Original Poster:

75 posts

182 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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IrrElephant said:
'I've never had a company car, what if my [hubby] needs to drive me somewhere' kind of way smile

IrrElephant

34,775 posts

189 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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classicc said:
IrrElephant said:
'I've never had a company car, what if my [hubby] needs to drive me somewhere' kind of way smile
Yeah, or that hehe

DavidM1992

15 posts

181 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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With my Dad's company car it allows immediate family who are over 25.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

241 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Funk said:
Astra Dan said:
Mate drives his dad's company car as it says "Anyone with the policyholder's permission" on the insurance certificate.
I would double-check that as your mate's dad is not the policyholder. If someone else is driving a car owned by the company, they will normally use their own insurance cover (rather than risk the vehicle being covered 3rd-party only).

I really would get him to check, as it's possible he's driving it uninsured.
+1. This is quite worrying.

K50 DEL

9,732 posts

257 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Chicharito said:
My company restricts non-company drivers to partners who live at the same address.
I used to be the fleet manager for my old company in the UK and this was a stipulation of our company cars... in fact it wasn't set by us, but by was a term of the fleet policy that we had.

There was also a clause that stated that anyone was covered to drive in a medical emergency.

OP, speak to your fleet manager, you won't be the first to ask, in fact I'm surprised they didn't tell you when you were given the car.

Toaster Pilot

14,863 posts

187 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Definitely check, however one place I've worked was any employee, any full licence holder with the permission of the company car driver, and any provisional licence holder related to the company car driver with the driver acting as supervising driver.

"any employee" also applied to any car hired by the company which was good for long business journeys (I had a short term rental because I was on a temp contract)

Superhoop

4,913 posts

222 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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It might be worth having a look through either your company's employee handbook, company car policy or at your insurance documents

I have a company car, and who can drive is detailed in all of the above places.

Ours lets any immediate family (there is a detailed list of who qualifies) or anyone authorised by the driver as long as I am also in the car

Also check the details of what happens when driving abroad if you're ever likely to - in our case, a new policy document is required, which stipulates named drivers

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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This is a question for your HR department.
It is also probably in your comp car handbook so check that out today

HR will not mind at all about being asked this question rather this question than having to deal with a car accident with employees uninsured member of family I can assure you. That would probably be P45 time so ask and get the answer in email or formal letter if not in handbook

mercfunder

8,535 posts

202 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Check with your HR department, usually they want a copy of the other driver's licence before they will give permission.
Whatever you do don't let anybody drive, who you haven't told the company about.

U T

49,040 posts

179 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Any company of repute should provide a Company Car Driver's Handbook to all company car drivers. This should tell you what they expect of you in terms of care of the car, who to contact in the event of an accident, breakdown, windscreen breakage etc, who can drive, and the company policy on handsfree phones, hitchhikers, child seats, towing and all their other regulations.

If they've just given you the keys without a company handbook then they should be ashamed of themselves. It'll serve them right when the car gets handed back in 3 yrs with 60K extra miles, the same oil in it and covered in scrapes and dents.