Cambelt just snapped, advice needed 57 A3 TDI
Cambelt just snapped, advice needed 57 A3 TDI
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MAFOOGOON

Original Poster:

12 posts

185 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Hi all
Gutted post, driving home tonight and my cambelt has just snapped frown

Now i'm gutted iv'e only had the car 4 months and here's why I seek advice. I bought the car privatly paid cash it's a 57 plate 2.0 tdi s/line fsh with 110k. Service book shows belt changed at carlisle audi @ 72k and the chap i bought it off said that the belt had just been changed about a month prior to me getting it at a local garage but no reciept. rolleyes
Anyway should I speak to the owner and see if it had been changed and try and persue the garage as it must have a warranty unless it was cash in hand or speak to Audi UK and see what if any warranty they give as the car has only covered 40k since it was changed and the belt intervals are 80k and 160k.

Advice please as I'm about to cry cry

v8will

3,309 posts

218 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Private 2nd hand buy, I doubt you would have any solid comeback.

Will be please if I can be proved wrong.

off_again

13,917 posts

256 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Legally not where you can go - private sale and hence no come back. You could check on the service record with Audi (everything is computerised so they can check), but chances are you are on your own. Sorry.

SMcP114

2,916 posts

214 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Honestly, I wouldn't waste my time contacting anyone.

Just get it fixed. It's not a nice thing to happen but there is no comeback with something like this.

Caesar9

118 posts

183 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Sounds unfortunate but as far as I'm aware cambelts can snap at anytime whether it be 2000 miles or 100,000 miles. You may be lucky and little damage may have been done but you won't know until the heads off. I think it may be a case of aceepting it although theres no harm in looking into it with audi and the garage that may have changed it.

POORCARDEALER

8,626 posts

263 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Sorry but you have zero comeback as you bought private.

TRUENOSAM

763 posts

192 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Sorry to say but your facing a large bill frown

You may be lucky and have only bent a couple of valves

GreigM

6,740 posts

271 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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This will be difficult.

You may have a claim against the garage who fitted the belt, but without a receipt you'll struggle. This also complicates the story with Audi as they will point to poor parts/workmanship. I'm surprised the belt was changed again as surely it was well within the specified interval - something suspicious here? Otherwise you'd have had a better claim as it was a main dealer fitted belt which changed.

You could try a claim against audi, or appeal for goodwill, but unless you're dishonest about the non-dealer work being done you would have no chance, and even then you'd need a gold-plated main dealer service record.

You should discuss this with trading standards, but on a car with that mileage I think you're just purely out of luck.

MAFOOGOON

Original Poster:

12 posts

185 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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I have the car registered with audi uk. I'm hoping as they changed the belt they might give a little on the repair costs. I wasn't sure what had happened at first as the car still turns over but a quick peek behind the covers shows a slack belt so i'm not holding too much hope
Do they bend valves etc, any idea on costs

maniac0796

1,292 posts

188 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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GreigM said:
This will be difficult.

You may have a claim against the garage who fitted the belt, but without a receipt you'll struggle. This also complicates the story with Audi as they will point to poor parts/workmanship. I'm surprised the belt was changed again as surely it was well within the specified interval - something suspicious here? Otherwise you'd have had a better claim as it was a main dealer fitted belt which changed.

You could try a claim against audi, or appeal for goodwill, but unless you're dishonest about the non-dealer work being done you would have no chance, and even then you'd need a gold-plated main dealer service record.

You should discuss this with trading standards, but on a car with that mileage I think you're just purely out of luck.
IIRC the interval on the majority of VAG diesel engines is a suggested 4 years, with a check at 60k and subsequent checks at 20k.

If you get the covers stripped and it appears to be a new belt, and you somehow have the receipt, you could take it up with audi or whoever supplied the belt and perhaps get a warranty claim. If the belt appears to never of been changed, well, thats for you to take up with the seller, something you're probably not going to get very far with from a private sale.

Bezerk

457 posts

181 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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I agree with others who say just get it fixed.

Cost wise it really does depend how much damage has been done.
If everything needs replacing, all valves etc. my guess is £1500+ at Audi.

Pauly-b

131 posts

211 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Bezerk said:
I agree with others who say just get it fixed.

Cost wise it really does depend how much damage has been done.
If everything needs replacing, all valves etc. my guess is £1500+ at Audi.
I think the above's spot on unfortunately - I doubt Audi will be interested if it was changed outside of the dealer network.

frosted

3,549 posts

199 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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In future if work was done without a receipt treat it like it was never done in the first place , on my tdi the belt was up at 80k , I understand it depends on the engine and most are at 60k or 4 years

busta

4,504 posts

255 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Definitely something fishy going on here. If it was changed at 72k, why change it again at 110k? Even going from when it was first changed you would expect it to last at least another 40k/couple of years.

Regardless, speculation is a bit futile. It's your car and it is broken, therefore it is your problem. It sucks but that's life!

JollyGrnMonster

887 posts

219 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Does belt look new?

Had a similar thing happen.
I bought a car with belt done and a reciept and then sold it to a friend and the belt snapped.
Gates analysed the belt and said it was the original and hadnt been changed.
Friend contacted a solicitor who said the case could only be taken further by the named person kn the reciept.
Garage was contacted who didnt want to know. Wouldnt even look at the car.
Your only chance is that the audi garage that changed it which you have reciept for offer some good will but I dont think you have a much chance.

Simon

tim0409

5,592 posts

181 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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As previous posters have said, you will have no joy from Audi as they didn't fit the last cambelt. You have no recourse against the seller as it was a private sale unless he made untrue statements about the car. The last garage who fitted the cambelt won't be interested either as you are not in contract with them.

I am curious as to why the last owner was fastidious enough to get the cambelt replaced early yet not fastidious enough to keep a receipt.

chard

28,503 posts

205 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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MAFOOGOON said:
Hi all
Service book shows belt changed at carlisle audi @ 72k and the chap i bought it off said that the
Advice please as I'm about to cry cry
The warranty from the Audi dealer is with the owner at the time not you so no joy there
Sorry chap on your own.

Zarkingfardwarks

1,041 posts

259 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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MAFOOGOON said:
I have the car registered with audi uk. I'm hoping as they changed the belt they might give a little on the repair costs. I wasn't sure what had happened at first as the car still turns over but a quick peek behind the covers shows a slack belt so i'm not holding too much hope
Do they bend valves etc, any idea on costs
don't try and run the car or turn it over

could be a water pump seizure that's buggered it all

Mojooo

13,285 posts

202 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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If the cambelt has snapped to due age and wear and tear and the last seller said he had recently just had it changed (and lied) that is a misrepresentation and you would have comeback - but as it was all verbal and you cannot prove it then you are stuffed.

TooLateForAName

4,902 posts

206 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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If the belt has been changed then I'd be looking at the tensioner and water pump - tbh I'd change both as a matter of course with a t/belt change. Minimal cost for peace of mind but so many people don't bother.

I think that you're out of luck in terms of come back though.