Will I ruin my integra...
Will I ruin my integra...
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Buzzkill

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786 posts

206 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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...by fitting cheaper tyres such as kumho ku31s, toyo t1rs, uniroyal rain experts or hancook v12s?

Currently using Yokohama ad08s and whilst they are amazing in the dry they are fairly expensive to replace and not too good in the wet. Tyre size is 195/55/15 so soft sidewalls a likely issue. Car isn't tracked.

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

230 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Buzzkill said:
...by fitting cheaper tyres such as kumho ku31s, toyo t1rs, uniroyal rain experts or hancook v12s?

Currently using Yokohama ad08s and whilst they are amazing in the dry they are fairly expensive to replace and not too good in the wet. Tyre size is 195/55/15 so soft sidewalls a likely issue. Car isn't tracked.
T1Rs will be very good on the Integra, less grip than the Yokos but will still be great. However I would look at the Falken FK452 instead of the T1Rs, as they are a bit better IMO.

Jayho

2,391 posts

192 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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I cant say for the Integra, but I quite rate the hancooks. ive had them on the ignis and it was brilliant. But I think they work better with lighter cars. smile

Podie

46,647 posts

297 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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I've had Hankooks on heavy cars (all nose heavy too - Mondeo ST200 and ST220, Fabia vRS) and had decent grip and wear.

mgmrw

20,951 posts

179 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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falkens on 200SX were a winner. £50 a corner on 18 inch, and brilliant all round.

Hankook on SAAB 93, gripped well. 8000 miles and they were DOA though.

nonuts

15,855 posts

251 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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I couldn't fault T1-Rs on either my S3 or M3, good value for money. Just don't try having near legal limit ones on the rear in the snow.

rallycross

13,679 posts

259 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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I've had several integra type R's and toyo t1R's in 15' size are shockingly bad due to the jelly soft side walls, also worth mentioning they don't work well under 1 or 2 deg.

With my last dc2 I always ran on good tyres with stiff sidewalls ( as the dc2 is designed to run on) eg Bridgestones, Yokohama ao48, Hankook rs2. Ran this over several years including lots of trackdays.

I sold that one and replaced it with another identical lower mileage Dc2 but it came with a set of recently fitted toyo's and they ruined the pin sharp characteristics of the car it was like driving with a soft tyre.

And in the cold they were shockingly bad even gently driven would lose grip, and in snow was as good as useless.

This was on 195 55 15's.

They are very cheap but not very good.



Edited by rallycross on Wednesday 7th December 15:03

Roastie ITR

496 posts

226 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Buzzkill said:
...by fitting cheaper tyres such as kumho ku31s, toyo t1rs, uniroyal rain experts or hancook v12s?

Currently using Yokohama ad08s and whilst they are amazing in the dry they are fairly expensive to replace and not too good in the wet. Tyre size is 195/55/15 so soft sidewalls a likely issue. Car isn't tracked.
I have found that tyres can make a huge difference to how the car feels. When I orginally got mine it had horrible soft Bridgestone S02's, when I swapped to the RE010's it was an amazing transformation, the firmness of the sidewall makes a huge differnce.

I have just fitted 4 Hancock V12's on the weekend coming from RE010's, but not really done any milage or had a chance to play with the pressures, so can't comment. I know they won't be as good, but they were the best that I could find after alot of searching.

I have heard the the Toyo's are to be avoided because of the tyre wall flex.

danneth

1,083 posts

209 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Avon zv3 or falken ze912 can be had for about £50 a corner, if you not on the track plenty good enough for the road

Baryonyx

18,218 posts

181 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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I've got Uniroyal Rain Experts on the front of my MR2 Turbo. They are fantastic tyres.

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

230 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Roastie ITR said:
I have found that tyres can make a huge difference to how the car feels. When I orginally got mine it had horrible soft Bridgestone S02's, when I swapped to the RE010's it was an amazing transformation, the firmness of the sidewall makes a huge differnce.

I have just fitted 4 Hancock V12's on the weekend coming from RE010's, but not really done any milage or had a chance to play with the pressures, so can't comment. I know they won't be as good, but they were the best that I could find after alot of searching.

I have heard the the Toyo's are to be avoided because of the tyre wall flex.
Toyos are fine on lighter cars, the softer sidewall isnt as much of a problem, an extra 1-2psi compensates.

lawrence567

7,507 posts

212 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Sorry OP thread hi-jack.
But does a Teg have 5 seats? Is the insurance brutally bad on them?

wackojacko

8,581 posts

212 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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nonuts said:
I couldn't fault T1-Rs on either my S3 or M3, good value for money. Just don't try having near legal limit ones on the rear in the snow.
hehe worn T1R's on your M3 were a rather amusing spectacle.

JonnyVTEC

3,230 posts

197 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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RobCrezz said:
T1Rs will be very good on the Integra, less grip than the Yokos but will still be great. However I would look at the Falken FK452 instead of the T1Rs, as they are a bit better IMO.
No they wont, Integras need stiff sidewalled tyres. I had T1Rs on mine and they runined the turn in response and made the car less confident at speed.

rallycross

13,679 posts

259 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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RobCrezz said:
Toyos are fine on lighter cars, the softer sidewall isnt as much of a problem, an extra 1-2psi compensates.
A Dc2 is quite light, uk ones are around 1150 kg without aircon and fuel etc. Even up to 36 psi they still felt like the car had somehow got soggy supension (if youve driven a DC2 you will know how precise the feedback should be)

These tyres are fine for £50 a corner (even less from Camskill) but there is no way of getting away from the fact they are pretty crap, and anyone who had experience of lots of cars/tyre combinations would be able to confirm that after a short drive.


antspants

2,402 posts

197 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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No experience with an Integra, but if people are recommending the Falken FK452 and others are stating you need a stiffer sidewall, then make sure you get the XL version as the normal ones are soft.

Cyder

7,178 posts

242 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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danneth said:
Avon zv3 or falken ze912 can be had for about £50 a corner, if you not on the track plenty good enough for the road
I'll second the Falken's, I've used them on the ZR for 2 years now and they're ace. Chuck the car around and they just seem to hang on with no drama wet or dry.

E30Addict

825 posts

194 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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IME Kumho KE31s offer a good level of grip and reasonable wear rate. I'm very impressed with them, but can't comment on them in snow/ice as I have winter tyres for the colder months.

Kozy

3,169 posts

240 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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As already mentioned by a few posters here, T1Rs will ruin the feel that you have with the AD08s. They are bloody terrible.

Buzzkill

Original Poster:

786 posts

206 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Thanks for the input, the problem I'm having is a lot of the mid to good quality tyres like fk452s aren't available in 195/55/15.